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From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Sep 30 16:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8U6DrKK015060 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:13:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j8U6Drj4028469 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:13:53 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j8U6DrGp028465 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:13:53 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:13:53 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Draft Announcement of NCSS Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 4562 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:09:36 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: nancy.pritchard@science.org.au Cc: alex.held@csiro.au, "Andrew Parfitt (Andrew. Parfitt@csiro. au)" , Brian Fraser , charles.barton@anu.edu.au, David@ips.gov.au, david.jupp@csiro.au, Judy Richmond , Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, Iver Cairns Subject: Draft Announcement of NCSS Decadal Plan Dear Nancy, per our phone conversation a few minutes ago, below is the draft announcement. Please give it to Sue Serjeantson for comment and approval. Comments from the rest of NCSS are obviously welcome too. Note that the attachments are still being updated. Sincerely, Iver. P.S. My contact details are next, so that the webmistress can change the NCSS entry and provide contact details for me. *********************************************************** Dr. Iver Cairns, Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726. President, Section ST (Solar Terrestrial), and Council member of the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) Chair, Division IV (Solar Wind and Interplanetary Magnetic field) of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science) Chair, Solar-Terrestrial and Space Physics Group of the Australian Institute of Physics. Treasurer, NSW Branch of the Australian Institute of Physics. *********************************************************** The draft ..... The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006 - 2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, School of Physics, University of Sydney, at nccs@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). NCCS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). From ncss@suphys Fri Sep 30 16:56:03 2005 +1000 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:56:03 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, genesis@gsoft.com.au, nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au cc: ncss@suphys.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , Brian Fraser , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , brian.boyle@csiro.au Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII (Please forward this to interested people.) The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006 - 2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, at nccs@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). NCCS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 24,868 bytes, ] [ described as "Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 Sep ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 2,836 bytes, ] [ described as "Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 28,044 bytes, ] [ described as "Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 12,456 bytes, ] [ described as "Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290-- From ncss@suphys Fri Sep 30 17:09:07 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8U78FfD024439; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j8U78EIH024434; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, genesis@gsoft.com.au, nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , Brian Fraser , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , brian.boyle@csiro.au Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290" Content-ID: Content-Length: 93874 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: (Please forward this to interested people.) The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006 - 2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, at ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 24,868 bytes, ] [ described as "Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 Sep ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 2,836 bytes, ] [ described as "Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 28,044 bytes, ] [ described as "Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 12,456 bytes, ] [ described as "Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290-- From rod.boswell@anu.edu.au Tue Oct 4 16:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from anumail1.anu.edu.au (anumail1.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.41]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j946sVnj014560 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rod.boswell@anu.edu.au) Received: from smtphost.anu.edu.au (stats.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.50]) by anumail1.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j946sU1i022636 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from rsphymail.anu.edu.au (rsphymail.anu.edu.au [150.203.176.80]) by smtphost.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j946sUfR025849 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from [150.203.179.92] (prl62.anu.edu.au [150.203.179.92]) by rsphymail.anu.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j946sPJG012485 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:25 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5e71af63ddc8e00dc0aa594a436f5f87@anu.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au From: Rod Boswell Subject: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the postmaster for more information X-MailScanner: Clean X-MailScanner-From: rod.boswell@anu.edu.au X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.3.46 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.3.46 internal X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_SUBJ_7 0' Content-Length: 501 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 Dear Iver, Matther Hole forwarded me your mail on the Decadal plan. Both Christine and I would very much like to be part of this as we are developing the double layer concept for space plasma thrusters and for the origin of the solar wind at the base of Coronal Funnels (with Eckart Marsch). Please let me know if this is possible. Cheers, Rod Prof Rod Boswell Phone +61261253442, phax +61261258316 The APCPST in 2006 is beginning of July in Cairns http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/~mdl112/apcpst/ From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Wed Oct 5 10:15:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j950FMZR016766; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:15:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j950FM1C016762; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:15:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:15:22 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Rod Boswell cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, christine.charles@anu.edu.au Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <5e71af63ddc8e00dc0aa594a436f5f87@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: References: <5e71af63ddc8e00dc0aa594a436f5f87@anu.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1341 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 Dear Rod, when you read the documents you will see that I specifically mentioned thrusters in Section 7.i) of the Strawman document, thereby implying that I expect the NCSS Decadal Plan to be of interest to you and Christine. So, yes, it is certainly possible and, indeed, expected that you will both participate in developing the Decadal Plan. Please read the documents, think about how you both (and other ANU colleagues) want to contribute and what comments you have, and then send me your written comments etc. They may include Themes, subthemes, specific projects/facilities etc. plus offers to help work on/write specific portions of the Plan. With best wishes, Iver. P.S. It would be great if you forwarded my Announcement email to all Plasma and Space people at ANU. On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Rod Boswell wrote: > Dear Iver, Matther Hole forwarded me your mail on the Decadal plan. > Both Christine and I would very much like to be part of this as we are > developing the double layer concept for space plasma thrusters and for > the origin of the solar wind at the base of Coronal Funnels (with > Eckart Marsch). Please let me know if this is possible. Cheers, Rod > > Prof Rod Boswell > Phone +61261253442, phax +61261258316 > The APCPST in 2006 is beginning of July in Cairns > http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/~mdl112/apcpst/ > > From bmg@head.cfa.harvard.edu Sat Oct 1 01:20:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from head.cfa.harvard.edu (head.cfa.harvard.edu [131.142.41.8]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8UFKUOw029099; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:20:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bmg@head.cfa.harvard.edu) Received: from gilly.cfa.harvard.edu (gilly [131.142.41.105]) by head.cfa.harvard.edu (d/w) with ESMTP id j8UFK8qd010032; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gilly.cfa.harvard.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gilly.cfa.harvard.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8UFK7Ni002837; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:20:07 -0400 Received: (from bmg@localhost) by gilly.cfa.harvard.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j8UFK7bR002836; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:20:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:20:07 -0400 From: Bryan Gaensler To: Iver Cairns , ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Cc: Andrew Melatos , duncan@space.mit.edu, Bryan Gaensler Subject: Re: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: <20050930152007.GD961@head-cfa.harvard.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organisation: Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.9.30.14 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CD 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Content-Length: 556 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 Hi Iver, This is very interesting. I have forwarded this to some of my MIT and CfA colleagues who are working on the MWA in Western Australia. Meanwhile, to what extent does space-based astrophysics fall under the purview of the NCSS? XMM, Chandra, HST, Spitzer and their successors are a huge part of modern astronomy, but barely rated a mention in the NCA report because of an understandable focus on SKA and on ELTs. Is there a role for Australia to play in future space missions, and is this something that the NCSS should consider? regards Bryan From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Wed Oct 5 10:45:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j950j6Ax023056; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j950j5nE023046; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:05 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Bryan Gaensler cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, Andrew Melatos , duncan@space.mit.edu, rwebster@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, jsalah@haystack.mit.edu, jck@space.mit.edu, cjl@haystack.mit.edu Subject: Re: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20050930152007.GD961@head-cfa.harvard.edu> Message-ID: References: <20050930152007.GD961@head-cfa.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2702 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 Dear Bryan et al. (including my MWA colleagues at MIT and U. Melbourne), thank you for your very prompt email. With regard to MWA, you will note that it's specifically mentioned in Section 6.ii) of the Strawman for the (Australian) NCSS Decadal Plan. Those of you who don't have these document can look at http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . Please update me on MWA's current situation and how you think Australia should participate. With regard to space-based astrophysics I note several quotes from the NCSS Purview document (NCA means National Committee for Astronomy): "NCSS wishes its Decadal Plan to focus on science associated with solar system phenomena and objects, with the NCA Decadal Review focusing on science associated with extra-solar system phenomena and objects" and "... space enabling technology (e.g.,rockets and spacecraft-plasma interactions), and astrobiology will be major foci of the NCSS Decadal Plan. Primacy in these overlap areas and all solar system science has been given to NCSS by NCA." So, at the moment I would have to say that NCSS will not focus on space-based astrophysics except in relation to solar system phenomena and the spacecraft themselves, even though this is a major area for COSPAR (for which NCSS is the Australian contact group). However, this is an overlap area with NCA and so needs to be properly discussed with NCA, something that I will start. It is therefore not possible for me to give you a definitive answer on this matter. Finally, an emphatic "Yes" to NCSS wanting Australia to participate fully in future space missions, including developing our own. This is specifically mentioned in the Strawman document. I look forward to receiving your detailed comments and suggestions, in due course - I will also forward you the actual Announcement email. As mentioned above, I will also forward this email to both NCSS and NCA for discussion. With thanks for being the first responder, and best regards, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Bryan Gaensler wrote: > Hi Iver, > > This is very interesting. I have forwarded this to some of my MIT and > CfA colleagues who are working on the MWA in Western Australia. > > Meanwhile, to what extent does space-based astrophysics fall under the > purview of the NCSS? XMM, Chandra, HST, Spitzer and their successors > are a huge part of modern astronomy, but barely rated a mention in the > NCA report because of an understandable focus on SKA and on ELTs. > > Is there a role for Australia to play in future space missions, and is > this something that the NCSS should consider? > > regards > Bryan > From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Wed Oct 5 11:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9519cwA028088; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:09:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9519cpt028062; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:09:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:09:38 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: brian.boyle@csiro.au, Alex.Held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@csiro.au, andrew.parfitt@unisa.edu.au, brian.fraser@newcastle.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, David.Jupp@csiro.au, David@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , jeanette.mill@science.org.au, mwalter@els.mq.edu.au, P.Dyson@latrobe.edu.au, robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Space-based astrophysics and the Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 4491 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 Dear Brian and members of NCSS, included below are an email from Bryan Gaensler and my response, both connected to the NCSS Decadal Plan. Two of the matters discussed (the MWA project and future Australian space projects) are straightforward. The middle one, that of whether it is NCSS or NCA that has primacy for space-based astrophysics, needs proper discussion. My immediate reactions are in my response to Bryan Gaensler - beyond these my feelings are that NCSS has enough to do without addressing all space-based astrophysics as well, the agreed separations between NCSS and NCA would be severely compromised by NCSS taking on space-based astrophysics, and longerterm the members of NCSS would usefully include a member of NCA with expertise in space-based astrophysics (and vice-versa, meaning that NCA should include an NCSS member with expertise in solar system physics and spacecraft). What I am trying to do with this email are: (1) raise the issue with NCA and obtain NCA's feedback, and (2) obtain comments and feedback from NCSS members. I presume that NCA will communicate with me and NCSS independently from the communications that NCSS members will have with me. Looking forward to hearing from you in due course, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:05 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Bryan Gaensler Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, Andrew Melatos , duncan@space.mit.edu, rwebster@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, jsalah@haystack.mit.edu, jck@space.mit.edu, cjl@haystack.mit.edu Subject: Re: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) Dear Bryan et al. (including my MWA colleagues at MIT and U. Melbourne), thank you for your very prompt email. With regard to MWA, you will note that it's specifically mentioned in Section 6.ii) of the Strawman for the (Australian) NCSS Decadal Plan. Those of you who don't have these document can look at http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . Please update me on MWA's current situation and how you think Australia should participate. With regard to space-based astrophysics I note several quotes from the NCSS Purview document (NCA means National Committee for Astronomy): "NCSS wishes its Decadal Plan to focus on science associated with solar system phenomena and objects, with the NCA Decadal Review focusing on science associated with extra-solar system phenomena and objects" and "... space enabling technology (e.g.,rockets and spacecraft-plasma interactions), and astrobiology will be major foci of the NCSS Decadal Plan. Primacy in these overlap areas and all solar system science has been given to NCSS by NCA." So, at the moment I would have to say that NCSS will not focus on space-based astrophysics except in relation to solar system phenomena and the spacecraft themselves, even though this is a major area for COSPAR (for which NCSS is the Australian contact group). However, this is an overlap area with NCA and so needs to be properly discussed with NCA, something that I will start. It is therefore not possible for me to give you a definitive answer on this matter. Finally, an emphatic "Yes" to NCSS wanting Australia to participate fully in future space missions, including developing our own. This is specifically mentioned in the Strawman document. I look forward to receiving your detailed comments and suggestions, in due course - I will also forward you the actual Announcement email. As mentioned above, I will also forward this email to both NCSS and NCA for discussion. With thanks for being the first responder, and best regards, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Bryan Gaensler wrote: > Hi Iver, > > This is very interesting. I have forwarded this to some of my MIT and > CfA colleagues who are working on the MWA in Western Australia. > > Meanwhile, to what extent does space-based astrophysics fall under the > purview of the NCSS? XMM, Chandra, HST, Spitzer and their successors > are a huge part of modern astronomy, but barely rated a mention in the > NCA report because of an understandable focus on SKA and on ELTs. > > Is there a role for Australia to play in future space missions, and is > this something that the NCSS should consider? > > regards > Bryan > From ncss@suphys Wed Oct 5 11:15:13 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j951FBkQ029392; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:15:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j951FAhj029388; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:15:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:15:10 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: duncan@space.mit.edu, jck@space.mit.edu, jsalah@haystack.mit.edu, cjl@haystack.mit.edu, rwebster@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, amelatos@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290" Content-ID: Content-Length: 95107 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Dear All, as promised/forewarned, Sincerely, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, genesis@gsoft.com.au, nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , Brian Fraser , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , brian.boyle@csiro.au Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (Please forward this to interested people.) The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006 - 2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, at ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. 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Could you tell me what you want to receive first? Thanks, Ildiko Dr. Ildiko Horvath Postdoctoral Research Fellow =20 Work: 61 7 33653694 Fax: 61 7 33654999 Email: ihorvath@itee.uq.edu.au University of Queensland School of ITEE University of Queensland Brisbane, QLD 4072 Australia =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_001_015D_01C5CD83.03C83730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I am new staff of School of Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I worked in Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of composite materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture antenna, large size shield and so on. What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find support for research and applicable technologies? May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if possible for you. Sincerely, Alexey Kondyurin From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Oct 17 15:03:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9H53R4E017557; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:03:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9H53QDk017550; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:03:26 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:03:26 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Ildiko Horvath cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: I would like to participate In-Reply-To: <016001c5cd2f$35208d90$43426682@itee.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: References: <016001c5cd2f$35208d90$43426682@itee.uq.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1255 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 Dear Ildiko, it's good to hear from you and to find that you have a position at UQ. Is it in space physics or something else? The question about where you might participate depends a little on what you're doing and what you're interested in doing now and want to see in the future. What I suggest you do is send me a short paragraph describing your expertise in space science (e.g., La Trobe PhD with Elizabeth Essex, GPS/Posideon ...), what you'd like to see in the future, and what time you have available. I and other volunteers will then combine the information and see what to do, based on the doscuments you've already seen. With best wishes, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS). On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Ildiko Horvath wrote: > Hi Iver > > > > I would like to participate, but I don't know where to start. > > Could you tell me what you want to receive first? > > > > Thanks, > > Ildiko > > > > Dr. Ildiko Horvath > Postdoctoral Research Fellow > Work: 61 7 33653694 > Fax: 61 7 33654999 > Email: ihorvath@itee.uq.edu.au > University of Queensland > School of ITEE > University of Queensland > Brisbane, QLD 4072 Australia > > > > > > From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Oct 17 15:06:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9H56pc7018371; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:06:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9H56pYb018367; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:06:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:06:51 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Alexey Kondyurin cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> Message-ID: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1066 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 Dear Alexey, the topics you mention are certainly of interest. Perhaps we should indeed talk to "answer" your questions. Perhaps some time on Thursday? Please let me know when would be convenient? Sorry for the delay in replying. Best wishes, Iver. On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > Dear Dr Iver Cairns, > > I would like to ask you about the Decadal Plan which is announced by the > National Committee for Space Science (NCSS). I am new staff of School of > Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I worked in > Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of composite > materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size > space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture > antenna, large size shield and so on. > What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find > support for research and applicable technologies? > May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if > possible for you. > > Sincerely, > Alexey Kondyurin > > > From a.kondyurin@physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Oct 17 15:20:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from Applied0504.physics.usyd.edu.au (applied0504.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.101.214]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9H5KV4E025145 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:20:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from a.kondyurin@physics.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20051017151514.01da9850@129.78.129.1> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:21:27 +1000 To: Iver Cairns From: Alexey Kondyurin Subject: Re: Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Length: 1445 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 Dear Iver, Very good. We can meet Thursday, better afternoon or close to evening. I am in University up to 6-7 p.m. Let me know, what time? Second question - where? My office is near Alex Samarian. We can meet there, or do you prefer in your office? How could I find you? Sincerely, Alexey At 03:06 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: >Dear Alexey, > >the topics you mention are certainly of interest. Perhaps we >should indeed talk to "answer" your questions. Perhaps some >time on Thursday? Please let me know when would be >convenient? Sorry for the delay in replying. Best wishes, > >Iver. > >On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > Dear Dr Iver Cairns, > > > > I would like to ask you about the Decadal Plan which is announced by the > > National Committee for Space Science (NCSS). I am new staff of School of > > Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I worked in > > Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of composite > > materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size > > space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture > > antenna, large size shield and so on. > > What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find > > support for research and applicable technologies? > > May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if > > possible for you. > > > > Sincerely, > > Alexey Kondyurin > > > > > > From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Oct 17 17:01:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9H71WmP016594; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:01:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9H71Whl016590; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:01:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:01:32 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Alexey Kondyurin cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Re: Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20051017151514.01da9850@129.78.129.1> Message-ID: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> <6.2.0.14.2.20051017151514.01da9850@129.78.129.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1689 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 Dear Alexey, let's say 3 pm on Thursday at my office - Room 457, 1 floor above the Physics Library. Ciao, Iver. On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > Dear Iver, > Very good. We can meet Thursday, better afternoon or close to evening. I am > in University up to 6-7 p.m. Let me know, what time? > Second question - where? My office is near Alex Samarian. We can meet > there, or do you prefer in your office? How could I find you? > Sincerely, > Alexey > > At 03:06 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: > > >Dear Alexey, > > > >the topics you mention are certainly of interest. Perhaps we > >should indeed talk to "answer" your questions. Perhaps some > >time on Thursday? Please let me know when would be > >convenient? Sorry for the delay in replying. Best wishes, > > > >Iver. > > > >On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > > > Dear Dr Iver Cairns, > > > > > > I would like to ask you about the Decadal Plan which is announced by the > > > National Committee for Space Science (NCSS). I am new staff of School of > > > Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I worked in > > > Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of composite > > > materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size > > > space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture > > > antenna, large size shield and so on. > > > What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find > > > support for research and applicable technologies? > > > May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if > > > possible for you. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Alexey Kondyurin > > > > > > > > > > > > From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Tue Oct 18 16:27:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9I6ROEH009147 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:27:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9I6ROj4016734 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:27:24 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9I6ROMP016730 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:27:24 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:27:24 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2618 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:35:53 +1000 From: Nancy Pritchard To: international@lists.science.org.au Subject: Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science The first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006-2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. The following four documents are available (as RTF files) online: 1. Draft process and schedule for developing the Decadal Plan 2. Draft purview of the Plan 3. Draft Structure for the Plan 4. Strawman for the Plan These documents are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft process/schedule, we are now in the 'brainstorming' period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to: Dr Iver Cairns Chair, National Committee for Space Science School of Physics University of Sydney NSW 2006 Email: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Fax: 02 9351 7726 NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Pritchard Manager - International Programs Australian Academy of Science From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Tue Oct 25 11:04:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9P14B9B018695; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:04:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9P13Vj4003787; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:03:31 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9P13Qcb003783; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:03:26 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:03:26 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Murray Parkinson cc: Brian Fraser , , Phil Wilkinson , , , , , , Iver Cairns , Subject: RE: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement In-Reply-To: <914547E30B7B9A4B9B31004AB98D43BD059F30E0@exchange2.ltu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 9416 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 Dear Murray, excellent. Thank you for agreeing to work on the Decadal Plan and also for your very interesting proposal. This is just what I'm hoping for, both in terms of an exciting project and also ideas that will spark others. With best wishes, Iver. P.S. I talked with Trevor Harris yesterday by mobile and he will be brainstorming with DSTO people (etc.) before his return to Oz about 8 November. Input from DSTO and him will therefore be after that date, but should be combined with the other inputs. On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Murray Parkinson wrote: > Dear Iver, > > I will gladly contribute to the drafting of the NCSS Decadal Plan. The > Australian ionospheric research community has a long history of > developing innovated, cutting edge HF radars. Here at La Trobe, Assoc. > Prof. John Devlin and Dr. Jim Whittington have been developing a > long-term vision of digitizing the ancient SuperDARN radar design. I > have been working with them to help develop the scientific applications. > We need to digitize the existing SuperDARN radars, including TIGER, as > part of the process of extending their scientific capability. However, I > think that our technological and scientific vision extends way beyond a > digital re-design of SuperDARN. I cannot see the point in simply > deploying more Australian SuperDARN radars when we can achieve so much > more for a similar amount of effort, and a little more money. > > I am especially interested in leading, or helping to lead, the proposal > for a "2.4 KM Australian Auroral Radar" to support Australian and > international auroral, sub-auroral, and middle-latitude space research. > Basically, I have in mind a JORN standard radar deployed in North West > Victoria or Southern New South Wales. Ideally, the radar will have ~160 > poleward and equatorward looking antennas, each with its own > multi-channel digital transceiver card and power amplifier. The radar > should not be thought of as having a specific design or operating mode. > Rather, it should be thought of as a sea of hardware and logic which can > be quickly reconfigured to support a diverse range of operating modes. > It should also be thought of as a technological test bed which might > undergo major upgrades in years to come. The radar will employ clustered > post-set beam steering capability, amongst other novel experimental > configurations. Digital SuperDARN radar will merely be a subset of this > radar. > > Developing the 2.4-KM Australian Auroral Radar is a natural next step > for our community, and is well within our capabilities. Here at La > Trobe, we have proven we can build expensive analogue SuperDARN radar > for a total cost in the order of 1.5 million dollars each. We should be > able to build radar ten times larger using cheaper antenna designs and > more flexible digital electronics for a total cost in the order of 10 > million dollars, paid in instalments as we upgrade the system to its > full capability. If our proposal is ambitious enough, we might attract > the support of international partners in the UK and USA. I think the > biggest hurtle will be acquiring a long-term lease on a sufficiently > large block of land, but we will have to confront this problem with the > deployment of new mid-latitude SuperDARN radars anyway. > > The scientific capabilities of the 2.4-KM Australian Auroral Radar will > go way beyond the extensive capabilities of existing SuperDARN radar. > The new system will have an order of magnitude improvement in spatial > and temporal resolution, an extended range of Doppler sampling, and the > potential to operate in novel ways limited by one's imagination and the > laws of physics. The system will permit us to measure global-scale > phenomena in the context of causative small-scale processes. For > example, we cannot hope to make accurate space weather forecasts unless > we begin to measure convection for what it is, something that to this > day has eluded direct observation. The main scientific theme of the > project will be "cross-scale coupling in the coupled > magnetosphere-ionosphere-thermosphere system," but we will be able to > study a diverse range of phenomena in immense detail at small scales, > whilst placing them in the context of the global-scale picture. > > Best wishes, Murray > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Iver Cairns [mailto:cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au] > Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:46 AM > To: Brian Fraser; Marc.Duldig@aad.gov.au; Murray Parkinson; Phil > Wilkinson; robert.dewar@anu.edu.au; robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au; > trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au > Cc: Iver Cairns > Subject: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement > > > Dear All, > > I am concerned about the response to the announcement of the > NCSS Decadal Plan and its request for people to volunteer > their time and ideas. (However, Phil Wilkinson has done sterling > work in updating the STSP website and making sure that the NCSS Decadal > Plan is properly described there.) This email is directed only towards > the Committee for the STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics > (with a similar one going to the NCSS) and I do not want it to be > distributed widely. My aim is to increase the number of people > volunteering and actively participating in the NCSS Decadal Plan. > > The basic issue is that none of those people who might be considered > mainstream space scientists have yet volunteered and there has been no > response from industry or Government. Specifically, I have heard > from none of you people on the STSP Committee! Similarly I have > heard nothing organised from community groups like the National Space > Society of Australia. The deadline for this "brainstorming" and > volunteering phase of the Plan is 28 October, this Friday. > > Note that the Decadal Plan will be focused on the visions, projects, and > > priorities of those who contribute to and/or write it. Those who sit > on the sidelines are unlikely to have their ideas/projects included or > given sufficient priority to have them funded. The Decadal Plan could > have major funding implications for space science: for instance, the new > > "Astronomy" Decadal Plan regards space-based astrophysics as being > important but not suitable for Australian investment of funds, thereby > essentially preventing Australian scientists from participating in > such international missions as equal players. Put bluntly, even future > ARC funding of such research at the rate of a few hundred thousand > dollars per year is at risk: unsympathetic reviewers will simply ask > whether the project fits into the NCA Plan and then lower their > evaluations into the unfundable range! If you have a longterm vision for > > your area of space science that involves significant new funding then > I encourage you to join the NCSS Decadal Plan now. Otherwise, don't > complain. > > It would make sense if younger people in the main Australian space > science groups volunteered, with the understanding that they will work > hard with their older colleagues to forge good vision and project > proposals. Having said this, many people near the standard retirement > ages have no intention of leaving science and have extremely valuable > expertise, experience, and wisdom to impart. A mix of both younger > and older people is therefore ideal for the volunteers (and it's OK > for multiple people from a given group to volunteer). While eventually > today's "young" people will be the main Australian players in space > science > and so they must feel an "ownership" interest in the NCSS Decadal Plan, > it would be ideal if all parts of the Australian space science community > > felt an ownership interest. > > I therefore strongly encourage you to discuss the NCSS Decadal Plan > with your colleagues, organise people to volunteer and respond to me > before the deadline, and start developing visions, themes, and projects > and other contributions to the Decadal Plan. I look forward to receiving > > your personal responses to this email and, shortly, statements of > interests and proposed contributions from volunteers. Remember that the > deadline for the brainstorming/volunteering phase is this Friday, > 28 October 2005. Sincerely, > > Iver. > > (Iver Cairns, Chair, STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics). > > > > > *********************************************************** > > Dr. Iver Cairns, > Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. > > > School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au > University of Sydney, > NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 > Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726. > > President, Section ST (Solar Terrestrial), and Council member > of the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) > > Chair, Division IV (Solar Wind and Interplanetary Magnetic field) > of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) > > Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of > Science) > > Chair, Solar-Terrestrial and Space Physics Group of the > Australian Institute of Physics. > > Treasurer, NSW Branch of the Australian Institute of Physics. > > *********************************************************** > > > From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Tue Oct 25 11:07:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9P17qFq019349; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:07:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9P17Vj4003794; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:07:31 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9P17P9i003790; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:07:25 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:07:25 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: alex.held@csiro.au, "Andrew Parfitt (Andrew. Parfitt@csiro. au)" , , Brian Fraser , , , , Judy Richmond , Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , , Brian Fraser , , , Phil Wilkinson , , , cc: Iver Cairns , Subject: RE: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 7179 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Dear All, here are some good comments from Murray Parkinson (La Trobe), which I agree with and were not perhaps adequately clear from the draft documents. For your further input, Iver. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:32:09 +1000 From: Murray Parkinson To: Iver Cairns Subject: RE: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement Dear Iver, Here are a few points I would like to make in regards to drafting the decadal plan: (1) The decadal plan needs to be about setting future directions, not consolidating existing positions. For example, asking for another Fedsat, TIGER, magnetometer, etc. is less impressive than proposing new directions and ideas. (2) The decadal plan needs to lead with enduring "big picture" scientific themes, not a list of everyone's pet scientific project. We need to be subtle in the use of these financial/psychological instruments which help to keep our science alive. (3) Some enduring scientific themes which need to be included in the plan are (a) the study of small-scale processes and cross-scale coupling, and (b) the effects of space weather on the biosphere and troposphere. Both of these themes are of greater importance to civilisation than simply "understanding space weather." In regards to (a), the related ideas are universal in their application, and we will never make reliable space weather forecasts without understanding the relevant physics. In regards to (b), the expression "sun to mud" is too vague and does not articulate the obvious importance of the scientific theme. Item (b) complements the "big picture" them of "life in the solar system." (4) Our community needs several major projects around which we can rally. One such project might be a future Australian space mission in collaboration with a partner nation in the Asia-Pacific. It is important that the project be an "Australian-Nation-X" mission, so that it evokes a sense of national ownership and pride. There must be something new and exciting about the mission, such as a swarm of micro-satellites in our longitude sector. This swarm might be used to perform high space and time resolution tomography of the ionosphere and plasmasphere, amongst other exciting experiments. Best wishes, Murray -----Original Message----- From: Iver Cairns [mailto:cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:46 AM To: Brian Fraser; Marc.Duldig@aad.gov.au; Murray Parkinson; Phil Wilkinson; robert.dewar@anu.edu.au; robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au; trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au Cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement Dear All, I am concerned about the response to the announcement of the NCSS Decadal Plan and its request for people to volunteer their time and ideas. (However, Phil Wilkinson has done sterling work in updating the STSP website and making sure that the NCSS Decadal Plan is properly described there.) This email is directed only towards the Committee for the STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics (with a similar one going to the NCSS) and I do not want it to be distributed widely. My aim is to increase the number of people volunteering and actively participating in the NCSS Decadal Plan. The basic issue is that none of those people who might be considered mainstream space scientists have yet volunteered and there has been no response from industry or Government. Specifically, I have heard from none of you people on the STSP Committee! Similarly I have heard nothing organised from community groups like the National Space Society of Australia. The deadline for this "brainstorming" and volunteering phase of the Plan is 28 October, this Friday. Note that the Decadal Plan will be focused on the visions, projects, and priorities of those who contribute to and/or write it. Those who sit on the sidelines are unlikely to have their ideas/projects included or given sufficient priority to have them funded. The Decadal Plan could have major funding implications for space science: for instance, the new "Astronomy" Decadal Plan regards space-based astrophysics as being important but not suitable for Australian investment of funds, thereby essentially preventing Australian scientists from participating in such international missions as equal players. Put bluntly, even future ARC funding of such research at the rate of a few hundred thousand dollars per year is at risk: unsympathetic reviewers will simply ask whether the project fits into the NCA Plan and then lower their evaluations into the unfundable range! If you have a longterm vision for your area of space science that involves significant new funding then I encourage you to join the NCSS Decadal Plan now. Otherwise, don't complain. It would make sense if younger people in the main Australian space science groups volunteered, with the understanding that they will work hard with their older colleagues to forge good vision and project proposals. Having said this, many people near the standard retirement ages have no intention of leaving science and have extremely valuable expertise, experience, and wisdom to impart. A mix of both younger and older people is therefore ideal for the volunteers (and it's OK for multiple people from a given group to volunteer). While eventually today's "young" people will be the main Australian players in space science and so they must feel an "ownership" interest in the NCSS Decadal Plan, it would be ideal if all parts of the Australian space science community felt an ownership interest. I therefore strongly encourage you to discuss the NCSS Decadal Plan with your colleagues, organise people to volunteer and respond to me before the deadline, and start developing visions, themes, and projects and other contributions to the Decadal Plan. I look forward to receiving your personal responses to this email and, shortly, statements of interests and proposed contributions from volunteers. Remember that the deadline for the brainstorming/volunteering phase is this Friday, 28 October 2005. Sincerely, Iver. (Iver Cairns, Chair, STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics). *********************************************************** Dr. Iver Cairns, Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726. President, Section ST (Solar Terrestrial), and Council member of the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) Chair, Division IV (Solar Wind and Interplanetary Magnetic field) of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science) Chair, Solar-Terrestrial and Space Physics Group of the Australian Institute of Physics. Treasurer, NSW Branch of the Australian Institute of Physics. *********************************************************** From ncss@suphys Thu Oct 20 15:49:28 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from Applied0504.physics.usyd.edu.au (applied0504.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.101.214]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9K5nQe2000859 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:49:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from a.kondyurin@physics.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20051020154903.01da29b0@129.78.129.1> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:50:20 +1000 To: Iver Cairns From: Alexey Kondyurin Subject: Re: Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> <6.2.0.14.2.20051017151514.01da9850@129.78.129.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_24768937==_" Content-Length: 44647 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 --=====================_24768937==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Iver, I send you brief project description as you said me. Regards, Alexey At 05:01 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: >Dear Alexey, > >let's say 3 pm on Thursday at my office - Room 457, 1 floor >above the Physics Library. Ciao, > >Iver. > > >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > Dear Iver, > > Very good. We can meet Thursday, better afternoon or close to evening. I am > > in University up to 6-7 p.m. Let me know, what time? > > Second question - where? My office is near Alex Samarian. We can meet > > there, or do you prefer in your office? How could I find you? > > Sincerely, > > Alexey > > > > At 03:06 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Alexey, > > > > > >the topics you mention are certainly of interest. Perhaps we > > >should indeed talk to "answer" your questions. Perhaps some > > >time on Thursday? Please let me know when would be > > >convenient? Sorry for the delay in replying. Best wishes, > > > > > >Iver. > > > > > >On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Dr Iver Cairns, > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you about the Decadal Plan which is announced > by the > > > > National Committee for Space Science (NCSS). I am new staff of > School of > > > > Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I > worked in > > > > Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of > composite > > > > materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size > > > > space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture > > > > antenna, large size shield and so on. > > > > What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find > > > > support for research and applicable technologies? > > > > May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if > > > > possible for you. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Alexey Kondyurin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Alexey Kondyurin, School of Physics, A28 University of Sydney, N.S.W. 2006 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61 2 9351 5962 Fax: +61 2 9351 7725 Email: A.Kondyurin@physics.usyd.edu.au --=====================_24768937==_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: application/msword; name="project2.doc"; x-mac-type="42494E41"; x-mac-creator="4D535744" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="project2.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/MSWORD segment of about 32,053 bytes. ] --=====================_24768937==_-- From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Tue Oct 25 13:16:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9P3GUDB016986; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:16:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9P3GUGB016983; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:16:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:16:30 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Alexey Kondyurin cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Re: Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20051020154903.01da29b0@129.78.129.1> Message-ID: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20051012113935.01d9bd20@129.78.129.1> <6.2.0.14.2.20051017151514.01da9850@129.78.129.1> <6.2.0.14.2.20051020154903.01da29b0@129.78.129.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2392 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 Dear Alexey, thank you very much. The description is most interesting. I will be in contact next week. Cheers, Iver. On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > Dear Iver, > I send you brief project description as you said me. > Regards, > Alexey > > At 05:01 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: > > >Dear Alexey, > > > >let's say 3 pm on Thursday at my office - Room 457, 1 floor > >above the Physics Library. Ciao, > > > >Iver. > > > > > >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > > > Dear Iver, > > > Very good. We can meet Thursday, better afternoon or close to evening. I am > > > in University up to 6-7 p.m. Let me know, what time? > > > Second question - where? My office is near Alex Samarian. We can meet > > > there, or do you prefer in your office? How could I find you? > > > Sincerely, > > > Alexey > > > > > > At 03:06 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Alexey, > > > > > > > >the topics you mention are certainly of interest. Perhaps we > > > >should indeed talk to "answer" your questions. Perhaps some > > > >time on Thursday? Please let me know when would be > > > >convenient? Sorry for the delay in replying. Best wishes, > > > > > > > >Iver. > > > > > > > >On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Alexey Kondyurin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr Iver Cairns, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you about the Decadal Plan which is announced > > by the > > > > > National Committee for Space Science (NCSS). I am new staff of > > School of > > > > > Physics and I work now at group of Marcela Bilek. In Europe, I > > worked in > > > > > Germany for European Space Agency on project of polymerisation of > > composite > > > > > materials in free space environment for new technologies of large size > > > > > space constructions as habitat, Moon and Mars bases, large aperture > > > > > antenna, large size shield and so on. > > > > > What is prospective of space research here and is a possibility to find > > > > > support for research and applicable technologies? > > > > > May be, a personal meeting is more suitable for these questions, if > > > > > possible for you. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Alexey Kondyurin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Alexey Kondyurin, > School of Physics, A28 > University of Sydney, > N.S.W. 2006 > AUSTRALIA > > Tel: +61 2 9351 5962 > Fax: +61 2 9351 7725 > Email: A.Kondyurin@physics.usyd.edu.au From ncss@suphys Thu Oct 27 13:34:36 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from web54605.mail.yahoo.com (web54605.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.175]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j9R3YVpg024253 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:34:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from trevorireland@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80580 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2005 03:34:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q0VhO/kw3Y399DAJlwga2pjaJNoy3Af0W/q/fgr2XGxKed/FpdjTPLeSXwRNm279bdzBV7z3P3X9NAiJ/0OQ5gnoFwvdRSo9PO4TCQVj3e6fxCFC8urN8x6v+4yaaOvKrE2SKiLAq8OuPtH7e3Dag+C8HVJZPB/YVuVfiUIb99g= ; Message-ID: <20051027033430.80578.qmail@web54605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [133.74.45.247] by web54605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:34:30 EST Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:34:30 +1000 (EST) From: Trevor Ireland Subject: Submission to AAS Decadal Plan for Space Sciences To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Cc: Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-390223389-1130384070=:80540" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.26.38 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __DOMAINKEYS_YAHOO 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0' Content-Length: 102693 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 --0-390223389-1130384070=:80540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Dr Iver Cairns Chair, National Committee for Space Science School of Physics University of Sydney NSW 2006 Dear Dr Cairns I am writing to you to make a submission to the AAS decadal plan for space sciences. At this moment I am sitting in Tokyo as part of the Hayabusa Space Mission and representing the AAS subcommittee for Muses-C (Hayabusa). Tomorrow, the Science team will select the two locations that Hayabusa will touch down and sample the Itokawa asteroid. As is indicated in my submission, we are actively involved in several space missions, largely through sample analysis, and feel it is useful to represent this to the Space Sciences Committee. I would be happy to contribute in any way to this process and would certainly be interested in the development and promotion of the plan. Best regards, Trevor Ireland Associate Professor Research School of Earth Sciences The Australian National University Canberra ACT 0200 Ph (02) 6125 5172 Fax (02) 6125 8345 Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< **** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that you are receiving mail from my "road" address. It should only be used in reply if you have received email from me. For best service, please cc: mail to Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au as well. Cheers, Trevor ____________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls http://au.messenger.yahoo.com --0-390223389-1130384070=:80540 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: application/pdf; name="SpaceSciANU.pdf" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: 4080291944-SpaceSciANU.pdf X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="SpaceSciANU.pdf" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/PDF segment of about 76,878 bytes, ] [ described as "4080291944-SpaceSciANU.pdf" ] --0-390223389-1130384070=:80540-- From ncss@suphys Thu Oct 27 16:36:17 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9R6aGf6001402 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9R6aFj4006446 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:15 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9R6aFTh006442 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:15 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:15 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DAAD.D39E21B2" Content-ID: Content-Length: 56909 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DAAD.D39E21B2 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:20:55 +1000 From: Peter Dyson To: Iver Cairns Subject: Decadal Plan Hi Iver, Some comments on the plans attached. I am willing to be involved in development of the plan. I could take a lead in several areas (e.g. background, ionosphere-thermosphere-mesosphere, radio and optical techniques. Hope this helps. Cheers Peter Professor Peter L. Dyson Department of Physics Mailing Address: Department of Physics Room 403 PS1 Building La Trobe University VICTORIA 3086 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 3 9479 2735 Fax: +61 3 9479 1552 E-mail: p.dyson@latrobe.edu.au La Trobe University Physics: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DAAD.D39E21B2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/MSWORD; NAME="LTU Deacadal Plan Initial Feedback to Cairns.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: LTU Deacadal Plan Initial Feedback to Cairns.doc X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="LTU Deacadal Plan Initial Feedback to Cairns.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/MSWORD segment of about 42,040 bytes, ] [ described as "LTU Deacadal Plan Initial Feedback to Cairns.doc" ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DAAD.D39E21B2-- From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Oct 28 09:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9RNYX8i016310; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:34:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9RNYXCW016307; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:34:33 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:34:33 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Trevor Ireland cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au Subject: Re: Submission to AAS Decadal Plan for Space Sciences In-Reply-To: <20051027033430.80578.qmail@web54605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20051027033430.80578.qmail@web54605.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1823 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 Dear Trevor, I am very pleased to hear from you and the ANU and Hayabusa teams. Thank you for your submission and your volunteering to help develop the Decadal Plan. Good luck choosing the sampling sites today. With best regards, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS). On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Trevor Ireland wrote: > Dr Iver Cairns > Chair, National Committee for Space Science > School of Physics > University of Sydney NSW 2006 > > Dear Dr Cairns > > I am writing to you to make a submission to the AAS > decadal plan for space sciences. At this moment I am > sitting in Tokyo as part of the Hayabusa Space Mission > and representing the AAS subcommittee for Muses-C > (Hayabusa). Tomorrow, the Science team will select the > two locations that Hayabusa will touch down and sample > the Itokawa asteroid. > > As is indicated in my submission, we are actively > involved in several space missions, largely through > sample analysis, and feel it is useful to represent > this to the Space Sciences Committee. I would be happy > to contribute in any way to this process and would > certainly be interested in the development and > promotion of the plan. > > Best regards, > > Trevor Ireland > Associate Professor > Research School of Earth Sciences > The Australian National University > Canberra ACT 0200 > > Ph (02) 6125 5172 > Fax (02) 6125 8345 > Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< **** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Please note that you are receiving mail from my "road" address. > It should only be used in reply if you have received email from me. > For best service, please cc: mail to Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au as well. > > Cheers, Trevor > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From ncss@suphys Wed Oct 26 12:09:50 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from gum.itee.uq.edu.au (gum.itee.uq.edu.au [130.102.66.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9Q29kNf016460 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:09:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ihorvath@itee.uq.edu.au) Received: from filter2.itee.uq.edu.au (filter2.itee.uq.edu.au [130.102.66.22]) by gum.itee.uq.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9Q29j7d006464 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:09:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from nut.itee.uq.edu.au (nut.itee.uq.edu.au [130.102.66.13]) by filter2.itee.uq.edu.au (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9Q29grt021502 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:09:42 +1000 Received: from g5399486 (g539-9486.itee.uq.edu.au [130.102.66.67]) by nut.itee.uq.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id j9Q29fsE011863 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:09:41 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <00ed01c5d9d2$533d1a00$43426682@itee.uq.edu.au> From: "Ildiko Horvath" To: "Iver Cairns" References: <016001c5cd2f$35208d90$43426682@itee.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: I would like to participate Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:09:36 +1000 Organization: ITEE, The Univeristy of Queensland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E9_01C5DA26.21DF4560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Checked: This message probably not SPAM X-Spam-Score: 0.81 X-Spam-Tests: HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Report: 0.8 points, 8.0 required; 0.8 HTML_30_40 BODY: Message is 30% to 40% HTML 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 130.102.66.1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 130.102.66.22 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.25.36 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='HTML_50_70 0.1, __C230066_P1_5 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __HAS_X_PRIORITY 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0' Content-Length: 35545 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01C5DA26.21DF4560 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00EA_01C5DA26.21DF4560" ------=_NextPart_001_00EA_01C5DA26.21DF4560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear Iver, I have written a short summary of my expertise (see attached document). I am available and would like to participate. Kind regards, Ildiko ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Iver Cairns=20 To: Ildiko Horvath=20 Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au=20 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: I would like to participate Dear Ildiko, it's good to hear from you and to find that you have a position at UQ. Is it in space physics or something else? The question about where you might participate depends a little on what you're doing and what you're interested in doing now and want to see in the future. What I suggest you do is send me a short paragraph describing your expertise in space science (e.g., La Trobe PhD with Elizabeth Essex, GPS/Posideon ...), what you'd like to see in the future, and what time you have available. I and other volunteers will then combine the information and see what to do, based on the doscuments you've already seen. With best wishes, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS). On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Ildiko Horvath wrote: > Hi Iver > > > > I would like to participate, but I don't know where to start. > > Could you tell me what you want to receive first? > > > > Thanks, > > Ildiko > > > > Dr. Ildiko Horvath > Postdoctoral Research Fellow > Work: 61 7 33653694 > Fax: 61 7 33654999 > Email: ihorvath@itee.uq.edu.au > University of Queensland > School of ITEE > University of Queensland > Brisbane, QLD 4072 Australia > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_001_00EA_01C5DA26.21DF4560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Dear Iver,
 
I have written a short summary of my expertise (see attached=20 document).
I am available and would like to participate.
 
Kind regards,
Ildiko
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Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:0= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: I would like to=20 participate


Dear Ildiko,

it's good to hear from you and to = find=20 that you have a position at UQ.
Is it in space physics or something=20 else?

The question about where you might participate depends a lit= tle=20 on
what you're doing and what you're interested in doing now and want<= BR>to=20 see in the future. What I suggest you do is send me a short
paragraph= =20 describing your expertise in space science (e.g., La Trobe
PhD with=20 Elizabeth Essex, GPS/Posideon ...), what you'd like
to see in the futu= re,=20 and what time you have available. I and other
volunteers will then com= bine=20 the information and see what to do,
based on the doscuments you've alr= eady=20 seen. With best wishes,

Iver

(Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS).On=20 Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Ildiko Horvath wrote:

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------=_NextPart_001_00EA_01C5DA26.21DF4560-- ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01C5DA26.21DF4560 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="My expertise in space science.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="My expertise in space science.doc" Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: My expertise in space science.doc [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 22,221 bytes, ] [ described as "My expertise in space science.doc" ] ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01C5DA26.21DF4560-- From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Oct 28 09:55:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9RNt9lI020507; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:55:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9RNsej4007522; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:54:40 +1000 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9RNsY4S007518; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:54:34 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:54:34 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Murray Parkinson cc: Brian Fraser , , , , , , , Brian Fraser , , , , , Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , , , , Subject: Re: NCSS Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <914547E30B7B9A4B9B31004AB98D43BD05B059F5@exchange2.ltu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 4173 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 Dear Murray, these are the types of "non-traditional space science" people that I've been wanting to get involved in the NCSS Decadal Plan. My attempts so far have been via emails to the National Space Society of Australia and various others. No official responses yet (indeed only 1 likely person, a Mr Spence Wort from South Australia, has replied - anyone know him?). It appears as though personal phone calls will be required to make progress. This is true also for business/industry, none of whom have responded (Electro-Optic Systems, Kistler Aerospace, Genesis, Kirby Ikin/Phillip Young). Do any of you have names or connections to Industry/Government or public space groups that we should be pursuing? Have you already informed them of the Decadal Plan? Thank you for your inputs. Best wishes, Iver. On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Murray Parkinson wrote: > Dear All, > > I have attached an e-mail message which some of you may have seen. It > seems like an outstanding example of an Australian niche space science > project. Unfortunately, I don't think that most of our community > identifies with this project which involves the development of > technology for human exploration of the solar system. I have no doubt > some very clever engineers, lay people, and scientists are involved in > the project, and the ultimate solutions adopted by NASA may incorporate > some of the better ideas. > > Should this project be described in the space science plan? I guess the > project is more of an engineering endeavour than a basic science effort. > > Just a thought, Murray > > > > > > > [marssocietynewsletter] Mars Society Australia Gets Funding for > Starchaser Rover > > marssocietynewsletter@yahoogroups.com; on behalf of; zubrin1 > [zubrin@aol.com] > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home > page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/RGYolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > Mars Society Australia Gets Stage Three Funding for Starchaser Rover > October 27, 2005 For further information about the international Mars > Society, visit our website at www.marssociety.org For further > information about the Mars Society Australia, visit our website at > www.marssociety.org.au > > > The UK Space Tourism Company, Starchaser Industries through their > Director,Paul Young has generously donated another UKP 20,000 (AU$ > 46,723) for Stage 3 of the construction of the Starchaser Marsupial > Rover project. > > This funding will cover the final construction and fit out of the > roverbefore it becomes operational, which is expect to be June 2006. > > The analogue Starchaser Rover is being built by the Mars Society > Australia in Western Australia to replicate the type of vehicle that > would be used by long distance explorers on the surface of the Red > Planet. The project arose from a competition by the Mars Society in the > US to raise awareness of the need for vehicles to provide simulations > for crews prior to sending the first interplanetary explorers to Mars. > > Built to carry 2-3 persons, the Starchaser Rover is based on a stretched > long wheelbase forward control Landrover chassis and running gear > powered by a Toyota engine. The vehicle will be convertible from full > cabin to ute (pick-up) configuration, and will be complete with airlock, > toilet facilities, head-up displays, GPS navigation equipment, > spacesuits for simulated EVAs, hydraulic robotic arm, long range fuel > tanks etc. > > The vehicle will be deployed to a planned Mars simulation base in the > Arkaroola region in SA for studies in a Mars-like environment, however > its home base will be at a purpose built rover laboratory at the Centre > for Planetary and Space Studies, the latter a joint venture by the Mars > Society and Trinity College, East Perth, Western Australia. > > David Cooper > President, Outreach Director, > Mars Society Australia, Inc. > Web: http://www.marssociety.org.au > Email: outreach@marssociety.org.au > > > > > > > > > From ncss@suphys Fri Oct 28 10:41:25 2005 +1000 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:41:24 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: nssa@nssa.com.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com.au, mediaspace@bigpond.com.au, wayne_short@optusnet.com.au cc: Iver Cairns , c.boshuizen@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re. the (Australian) National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290" Content-ID: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Dear Chairman Ikin, President James, Vice-President Short, and members of the National Space Society of Australia (NSSA), I wish to ask for your reactions to the announcement (included below) sent to you almost 1 month ago regarding the development of a first Decadal Plan for Space Science in Australia by the National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science). You are likely aware that this Decadal Plan will be a first, and therefore it is an opportunity for new and improved linkages to be made. This seems especially important since the links between most professional scientists and groups like NSSA and industry appear to be relatively weak. I am very keen for public groups and industry interested in space science to have input into the Decadal Plan. The draft documents attached will show this. If you prefer access to the documents via a website then please look at http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . While the official deadline for volunteering and initial "brainstorming inputs" to the Plan is today, this is flexible. I consider it very important to have at least some input from NSSA and associated groups, preferably including statements of what you see as essential and desirable and suggestions on how to accomplish these goals/projects. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, Iver Cairns P.S. Please forward this email to people you consider likely to be interested. *********************************************************** Dr. Iver Cairns, Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726 Mobile: 0407-483-798. Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science) *********************************************************** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, genesis@gsoft.com.au, nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , Brian Fraser , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , brian.boyle@csiro.au Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (Please forward this to interested people.) The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for the period 2006 - 2015. NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science directed to foster the area of space science in Australia (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's space science community, associated industries, and Government to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These should be sent before the deadline of 28 October 2005 to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, at ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="process_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 24,868 bytes, ] [ described as "Process/Schedule for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 Sep ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="purview_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 2,836 bytes, ] [ described as "Purview of NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="structure_NCSS_30sept.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 28,044 bytes, ] [ described as "Structure for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 12,456 bytes, ] [ described as "Strawman for NCSS Decadal Plan as of 30 September" ] ---559023410-851401618-1128063363=:15290-- From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Oct 28 11:00:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S10mmq004535; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:00:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9S10l8n004529; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:00:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:00:47 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: bgaensler@cfa.harvard.edu cc: amelatos@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, brian.boyle@csiro.au, t.bedding@physics.usyd.edu.au, i.cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: Space-based astrophysics and the Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 6961 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 Dear Bryan, sorry for the delay in responding to your message almost a month ago. Below is the response from Brian Boyle: space-based astrophysics (meaning extra-solar system science) is inside NCA's purview and outside NCSS's. NCA's funding priorities make it unlikely that it will support significant Australian investment in space-based astrophysics missions for the next decade. Similarly, space-based astrophysics will not be a high priority for NCSS support except where there is the potential for significant overlap and collaborative benefit. For instance, one can envisage an Australian spacecraft mission with several instruments in the payload: if one was a (cheap - probably a major problem unless it was substantially provided by an overseas collaborator) space-based astrophysics instrument and the others were space science instruments then it might be a win-win for everyone. The MONS instrument that Tim Bedding worked on might be relevant here, although I suspect that you're interested in X-ray etc. astrophysics, Bryan. NCSS would probably prefer an instrument with more solar system connections too (despite the obvious solar-stellar connection). But I'm getting ahead of myself here ... Please proceed to write a brief "brainstorming" submission and/or otherwise volunteer your involvement in the Decadal Plan, along these lines or others that you think of. With best regards, Iver. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:51:36 +1000 From: Brian J Boyle To: Iver Cairns Subject: Re: Space-based astrophysics and the Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Dear Iver On behalf of the NCA, I can provide you with the following feedback. As previously agreed, the astronomy community has indeed considered space-based astrophysics in its plan, noting its importance. However the astronomy community/NCA did not support direct investment in space-based infrastructure, preferring instead to gain access to such infrastructure via leverage from higher priority items of people and ground-based optical/IR+radio infrastructure. Brian On 05/10/2005, at 11:09 AM, Iver Cairns wrote: > > Dear Brian and members of NCSS, > > included below are an email from Bryan Gaensler and my response, > both connected to the NCSS Decadal Plan. Two of the matters > discussed (the MWA project and future Australian space projects) > are straightforward. The middle one, that of whether it is NCSS > or NCA that has primacy for space-based astrophysics, needs > proper discussion. My immediate reactions are in my response to > Bryan Gaensler - beyond these my feelings are that NCSS has enough > to do without addressing all space-based astrophysics as well, the > agreed separations between NCSS and NCA would be severely compromised > by NCSS taking on space-based astrophysics, and longerterm the members > of NCSS would usefully include a member of NCA with expertise in > space-based astrophysics (and vice-versa, meaning that NCA should > include an NCSS member with expertise in solar system physics and > spacecraft). > > What I am trying to do with this email are: > (1) raise the issue with NCA and obtain NCA's feedback, and > (2) obtain comments and feedback from NCSS members. > > I presume that NCA will communicate with me and NCSS independently > from the communications that NCSS members will have with me. Looking > forward to hearing from you in due course, > > Iver > > (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:05 +1000 (EST) > From: Iver Cairns > To: Bryan Gaensler > Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, Andrew Melatos > , > duncan@space.mit.edu, rwebster@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, > jsalah@haystack.mit.edu, jck@space.mit.edu, cjl@haystack.mit.edu > Subject: Re: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science > (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) > > > Dear Bryan et al. (including my MWA colleagues at MIT and U. > Melbourne), > > thank you for your very prompt email. > > With regard to MWA, you will note that it's specifically mentioned in > Section 6.ii) of the Strawman for the (Australian) NCSS Decadal Plan. > Those of you who don't have these document can look at > http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . > Please update me on MWA's current situation and how you think > Australia > should participate. > > With regard to space-based astrophysics I note several quotes from the > NCSS Purview document (NCA means National Committee for Astronomy): > "NCSS wishes its Decadal Plan to focus on science associated with > solar system phenomena and objects, with the NCA Decadal Review > focusing on science associated with extra-solar system phenomena > and objects" and > "... space enabling technology (e.g.,rockets and spacecraft-plasma > interactions), and astrobiology will be major foci of the NCSS Decadal > Plan. Primacy in these overlap areas and all solar system science has > been given to NCSS by NCA." > So, at the moment I would have to say that NCSS will not focus on > space-based astrophysics except in relation to solar system phenomena > and the spacecraft themselves, even though this is a major area for > COSPAR (for which NCSS is the Australian contact group). However, > this is an > overlap area with NCA and so needs to be properly discussed with NCA, > something that I will start. It is therefore not possible for me to > give > you a definitive answer on this matter. > > Finally, an emphatic "Yes" to NCSS wanting Australia to participate > fully in future space missions, including developing our own. This is > specifically mentioned in the Strawman document. > > I look forward to receiving your detailed comments and suggestions, > in due course - I will also forward you the actual Announcement email. > As mentioned above, I will also forward this email to both NCSS and > NCA for > discussion. With thanks for being the first responder, and best > regards, > > Iver > > (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Bryan Gaensler wrote: > > >> Hi Iver, >> >> This is very interesting. I have forwarded this to some of my MIT and >> CfA colleagues who are working on the MWA in Western Australia. >> >> Meanwhile, to what extent does space-based astrophysics fall under >> the >> purview of the NCSS? XMM, Chandra, HST, Spitzer and their successors >> are a huge part of modern astronomy, but barely rated a mention in >> the >> NCA report because of an understandable focus on SKA and on ELTs. >> >> Is there a role for Australia to play in future space missions, >> and is >> this something that the NCSS should consider? >> >> regards >> Bryan >> > B.J.Boyle Director CSIRO ATNF 9372 4300 From brian.boyle@csiro.au Thu Oct 13 15:51:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from vic-ironport-ext-out2.csiro.au (vic-ironport-ext-out2.csiro.au [150.229.64.38]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9D5pAdf020244 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:51:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from brian.boyle@csiro.au) Received: from crux.tip.csiro.au ([130.155.194.32]) by vic-ironport-ext-out2.csiro.au with SMTP; 13 Oct 2005 15:51:10 +1000 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,209,1125842400"; d="scan'208"; a="54707985:sNHT23388984" Received: (from daemon@localhost) by crux.tip.CSIRO.AU (8.9.3/8.9.3/CIPAT-2.1a) id PAA03757 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:51:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from chopin-mm.atnf.CSIRO.AU(130.155.199.84), claiming to be "[130.155.199.84]" via SMTP by crux.tip.CSIRO.AU, id smtpdAAAa03752; Thu Oct 13 15:51:07 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <75D6A042-581F-420E-8309-A0B15E991A91@csiro.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian J Boyle Subject: Re: Space-based astrophysics and the Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:51:36 +1000 To: Iver Cairns X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.12.44 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=, Probability=0%, Report='RELAY_IN_BONDEDSENDER -10, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_8 0' Content-Length: 5285 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 Dear Iver On behalf of the NCA, I can provide you with the following feedback. As previously agreed, the astronomy community has indeed considered space-based astrophysics in its plan, noting its importance. However the astronomy community/NCA did not support direct investment in space-based infrastructure, preferring instead to gain access to such infrastructure via leverage from higher priority items of people and ground-based optical/IR+radio infrastructure. Brian On 05/10/2005, at 11:09 AM, Iver Cairns wrote: > > Dear Brian and members of NCSS, > > included below are an email from Bryan Gaensler and my response, > both connected to the NCSS Decadal Plan. Two of the matters > discussed (the MWA project and future Australian space projects) > are straightforward. The middle one, that of whether it is NCSS > or NCA that has primacy for space-based astrophysics, needs > proper discussion. My immediate reactions are in my response to > Bryan Gaensler - beyond these my feelings are that NCSS has enough > to do without addressing all space-based astrophysics as well, the > agreed separations between NCSS and NCA would be severely compromised > by NCSS taking on space-based astrophysics, and longerterm the members > of NCSS would usefully include a member of NCA with expertise in > space-based astrophysics (and vice-versa, meaning that NCA should > include an NCSS member with expertise in solar system physics and > spacecraft). > > What I am trying to do with this email are: > (1) raise the issue with NCA and obtain NCA's feedback, and > (2) obtain comments and feedback from NCSS members. > > I presume that NCA will communicate with me and NCSS independently > from the communications that NCSS members will have with me. Looking > forward to hearing from you in due course, > > Iver > > (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:45:05 +1000 (EST) > From: Iver Cairns > To: Bryan Gaensler > Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, Andrew Melatos > , > duncan@space.mit.edu, rwebster@isis.ph.unimelb.edu.au, > jsalah@haystack.mit.edu, jck@space.mit.edu, cjl@haystack.mit.edu > Subject: Re: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science > (NCSS) Decadal Plan (fwd) > > > Dear Bryan et al. (including my MWA colleagues at MIT and U. > Melbourne), > > thank you for your very prompt email. > > With regard to MWA, you will note that it's specifically mentioned in > Section 6.ii) of the Strawman for the (Australian) NCSS Decadal Plan. > Those of you who don't have these document can look at > http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . > Please update me on MWA's current situation and how you think > Australia > should participate. > > With regard to space-based astrophysics I note several quotes from the > NCSS Purview document (NCA means National Committee for Astronomy): > "NCSS wishes its Decadal Plan to focus on science associated with > solar system phenomena and objects, with the NCA Decadal Review > focusing on science associated with extra-solar system phenomena > and objects" and > "... space enabling technology (e.g.,rockets and spacecraft-plasma > interactions), and astrobiology will be major foci of the NCSS Decadal > Plan. Primacy in these overlap areas and all solar system science has > been given to NCSS by NCA." > So, at the moment I would have to say that NCSS will not focus on > space-based astrophysics except in relation to solar system phenomena > and the spacecraft themselves, even though this is a major area for > COSPAR (for which NCSS is the Australian contact group). However, > this is an > overlap area with NCA and so needs to be properly discussed with NCA, > something that I will start. It is therefore not possible for me to > give > you a definitive answer on this matter. > > Finally, an emphatic "Yes" to NCSS wanting Australia to participate > fully in future space missions, including developing our own. This is > specifically mentioned in the Strawman document. > > I look forward to receiving your detailed comments and suggestions, > in due course - I will also forward you the actual Announcement email. > As mentioned above, I will also forward this email to both NCSS and > NCA for > discussion. With thanks for being the first responder, and best > regards, > > Iver > > (Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science). > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Bryan Gaensler wrote: > > >> Hi Iver, >> >> This is very interesting. I have forwarded this to some of my MIT and >> CfA colleagues who are working on the MWA in Western Australia. >> >> Meanwhile, to what extent does space-based astrophysics fall under >> the >> purview of the NCSS? XMM, Chandra, HST, Spitzer and their successors >> are a huge part of modern astronomy, but barely rated a mention in >> the >> NCA report because of an understandable focus on SKA and on ELTs. >> >> Is there a role for Australia to play in future space missions, >> and is >> this something that the NCSS should consider? >> >> regards >> Bryan >> > B.J.Boyle Director CSIRO ATNF 9372 4300 From ncss@suphys Fri Oct 28 11:42:30 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from anumail4.anu.edu.au (anumail4.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.44]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S1gSao013956 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:42:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Marc.Norman@anu.edu.au) Received: from smtphost.anu.edu.au (stats.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.50]) by anumail4.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9S1gRZA004314 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:42:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from [150.203.10.107] (esdhcp-107.anu.edu.au [150.203.10.107]) by smtphost.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9S1gQpr005597 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:42:26 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Message-Id: <328ad88a162546c221cfe20476f4c2c9@anu.edu.au> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--314783941 From: Marc Norman Subject: submission to Space Science Decadal Plan Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:42:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.27.36 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.27.34 internal X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Content-Length: 127204 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 --Apple-Mail-12--314783941 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Dear Dr. Cairns: Attached please find a submission to the Academy's Decadal Plan for Space Science development process, as a pdf file. This submission comes from the Geological Society of Australia's Specialist Group in Planetary Geoscience. It outlines areas of national strengths in planetary science which appear to fall within the purview of the Decadal Plan. We appreciate the opportunity to make this contribution. Please let me know if we can be of assistance in any way as the Plan develops, including more detailed contributions to the science themes and background information. With best regards, Dr. Marc Norman Chair, GSA Specialist Group In Planetary Geoscience Research School of Earth Sciences Australian National University Mills Road, Building 61 Canberra ACT 0200 phone: 02-6125-4373 fax: 02-6125-4835 mobile: 0410 342 149 --Apple-Mail-12--314783941 X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: application/pdf; x-unix-mode=0644; name="SpaceSci Decadal Plan SGPG.pdf" X-Content-Disposition: inline; filename="SpaceSci Decadal Plan SGPG.pdf" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/PDF segment of about 95,614 bytes. ] --Apple-Mail-12--314783941 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-12--314783941-- From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Oct 28 16:13:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S6DFh4007388; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:13:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9S6DFi0007385; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:13:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:13:15 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Marc Norman cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: submission to Space Science Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <328ad88a162546c221cfe20476f4c2c9@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: References: <328ad88a162546c221cfe20476f4c2c9@anu.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1028 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 Dear Marc, thank you very much. I will contact you next week. With thanks again, Iver. On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Marc Norman wrote: > Dear Dr. Cairns: Attached please find a submission to the Academy's > Decadal Plan for Space Science development process, as a pdf file. This > submission comes from the Geological Society of Australia's Specialist > Group in Planetary Geoscience. It outlines areas of national strengths > in planetary science which appear to fall within the purview of the > Decadal Plan. > > We appreciate the opportunity to make this contribution. Please let me > know if we can be of assistance in any way as the Plan develops, > including more detailed contributions to the science themes and > background information. > > With best regards, > > Dr. Marc Norman > Chair, GSA Specialist Group In Planetary Geoscience > Research School of Earth Sciences > Australian National University > Mills Road, Building 61 > Canberra ACT 0200 > > phone: 02-6125-4373 > fax: 02-6125-4835 > mobile: 0410 342 149 > > > From wayne@gravitec.co.nz Fri Oct 28 15:32:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S5Wk4X000494 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:32:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wayne@gravitec.co.nz) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 61F7C183722 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:32:37 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id 48669183727 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:32:37 +0800 (WST) Received: from [130.95.118.85] (unknown [130.95.118.85]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263EC183722 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:32:36 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4361B85F.7040208@gravitec.co.nz> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:34:23 +0800 From: Wayne McRae User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Gravitec's magnetic and gravity sensors Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010108070309040706010107" X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (275/051025) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.10.27.43 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__BAT_BOUNDARY 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Content-Length: 7514 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010108070309040706010107 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000100000304080804020208" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000100000304080804020208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dr Cairns, I represent Gravitec Instruments, a research and development company currently based at the University of Western Australia specialising in the development of sensors for mineral surveying in airborne and borehole environments. We're nearing completion of two core technologies that might be of interest to space research. We have a string based magnetic sensor that directly measures the local magnetic gradient tensors (Txz, Tzx, Tyz, Tyz, Txy and Txy) and is completely immune to the local uniform magentic field. The sensor currently has measurement sensitivity of 0.1nT/m flat response over DC-1Hz. This would improve by 2-3 orders of magntiude when developed for a space based platform offering much higher resolution signal measurements and a wider measurement bandwidth. We also have a ribbon based gravity gradient sensor that directly measures the gradient tensors (Gxz, Gzx, Gyz, Gzy, Gxy, Gyx) and is capable of 5Eotvos sensitivity at room temperature. The gravity gradiometer is immune to the local uniform gravitational field and would be capable of significant improvement in sensitivity (again 2-3 orderes of magnitude) on a space based platform. Both sensors are cheap to produce, lightweight (ideal for space research), capable of operation at low power, simple in design and robust, and would have better sensitivity than anything currently available. Possible applications for the sensors include: Mineral mapping of astroids (space probe based), moons and planets (rover based) Measurement of changes from uniformity of the Earth's magnetic and gravitational fields and the Moon's gravitational field Measurement of magnetic remanents in the Moon Solar wind magnetic field measurements We'd like to be updated on the progress of the Decadal Plan for Space Science and would like to discuss space deployment of our sensors when the plan has progressed further. Best regards, -Dr Wayne McRae From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Oct 28 16:20:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S6KVGC008677; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:20:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j9S6KUks008673; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:20:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:20:30 +1000 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Wayne McRae cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: Gravitec's magnetic and gravity sensors In-Reply-To: <4361B85F.7040208@gravitec.co.nz> Message-ID: References: <4361B85F.7040208@gravitec.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 94 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Dear Wayne, thank you very much. I will be in contact next week. With thanks again, Iver. From R.Bhathal@uws.edu.au Wed Nov 2 12:38:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from kwd-w2k-avgwy.uws.edu.au (kwd-w2k-avgwy.uws.edu.au [137.154.156.102]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA21cGR1009871 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:38:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from R.Bhathal@uws.edu.au) Received: from BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU ([137.154.156.28]) by kwd-w2k-avgwy with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:38:16 +1100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF4E.185CA88C" Subject: space science decadal plan Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:38:15 +1100 Message-ID: <039A7CE5BC8F554C81732F2505D51172018A6655@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: space science decadal plan Thread-Index: AcXfThgXBL9pefxeT3qU4GDWxbv1lg== From: "Ragbir Bhathal" To: X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.11.1.33 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='HTML_70_90 0.1, __C230066_P2 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0' Content-Length: 3682 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF4E.185CA88C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Iver =20 I just came across your page and read about your plans for a decadal plan and your request for "volunteers to develop and promote the plan". I would like to get involved with this. =20 I have just received approval by my university authorities to run a new degree on Space and Satellite Communications at the University of Western Sydney. This is probably the first degree of this kind in Australia and the ASEAN region. The planning committee for this new degree also had industry representatives. =20 =20 Ragbir 2/11/05 =20 Director UWS Observatory School of Engineering University of Western Sydney r.bhathal@uws.edu.au =20 http://www.geocities.com/australian_seti =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF4E.185CA88C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I just = came across=20 your page and read about your plans for a decadal plan and your request = for=20 "volunteers to develop and promote the plan".  I would like to get = involved=20 with this.
 
I have = just received=20 approval by my university authorities to run a new degree on Space and = Satellite=20 Communications at the University of Western Sydney.  This is = probably the=20 first degree of this kind in Australia and the ASEAN region.  The = planning=20 committee for this new degree also had industry representatives. =20
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF4E.185CA88C-- From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Thu Nov 3 12:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA31Zj5i022499; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:35:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id jA31Zja2022496; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:35:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:35:45 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Ragbir Bhathal cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: space science decadal plan In-Reply-To: <039A7CE5BC8F554C81732F2505D51172018A6655@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU> Message-ID: References: <039A7CE5BC8F554C81732F2505D51172018A6655@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1582 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 Dear Ragbir, excellent, NCSS and I would very much like you, UWS, and colleagues to become involved. Please proceed to (1) send me some information on which areas of the plan you'd like to be involved in, including perhaps some suggested themes or projects or other comments, and (2) inform the industry representatives involved in your new degree about the plan and ask them to become involved too. Note that we are now nominally beyond the first "brainstorming" period, but I am certainly still welcoming contributions and volunteers. So far I have only managed to get one industry representative involved. In case you need them the documents for the Decadal Plan announcement are available from the Academy/NCSS page http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm . With best regards, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS). On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Ragbir Bhathal wrote: > Hi Iver > > I just came across your page and read about your plans for a decadal > plan and your request for "volunteers to develop and promote the plan". > I would like to get involved with this. > > I have just received approval by my university authorities to run a new > degree on Space and Satellite Communications at the University of > Western Sydney. This is probably the first degree of this kind in > Australia and the ASEAN region. The planning committee for this new > degree also had industry representatives. > > Ragbir > 2/11/05 > > Director UWS Observatory > School of Engineering University of Western Sydney > r.bhathal@uws.edu.au > > http://www.geocities.com/australian_seti > > > > From ncss@suphys Thu Nov 3 15:58:58 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA34wu8X001791 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:58:56 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jA34wuj4026499 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:58:56 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id jA34wuYf026495 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:58:56 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:58:56 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: RE: Responses needed to the NCSS Decadal Plan announcement (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D83C.4377B173" Content-ID: Content-Length: 56982 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D83C.4377B173 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:42:59 +1000 From: Alex.Held@csiro.au To: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Cc: charles.barton@anu.edu.au Subject: RE: Responses needed to the NCSS Decadal Plan announcement Dear Iver: I received your message, and I'm sorry it has been so quiet from our corner. Current internal restructure (as usual!) has caused some additional work for COSSA in maintaining a cross-CSIRO focus on space science, and in particular earth observation. The 'red-queen' approach from Alice in Wonderland is a great analogy for the current status here, .... and I suspect with most of us at the moment. Having said that, I will endeavour to read and provide feedback to the plan this week. At present, I have an interest in promoting some specific earth observation & earth system science initiatives we have been discussing with colleagues and other agencies recently (see attachment), and that may also be of interest to discuss within our committee, especially for Charlie with whom we have been floating some ideas on GEO and eGY. This project would be submitted to DEST for NCRIS funding, and would make a suitable Australian contribution to GEOSS. Cheers, Alex ______________________________________________ A. Alexander Held PhD. Head, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications CSIRO Earth Observation Centre GPO Box 3023, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Tel. +61 (0) 2 6246 5718 Fax. +61 (0) 2 6246 5988 Email: Alex.held@csiro.au www.eoc.csiro.au ________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Iver Cairns [mailto:cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:01 AM To: Held, Alex (CMAR, Black Mountain); Parfitt, Andrew (CIP, Marsfield); andrew.parfitt@unisa.edu.au; Brian Fraser; charles.barton@anu.edu.au; David@ips.gov.au; Jupp, David (CMAR, Black Mountain); jeanette.mill@science.org.au; Malcolm Walter; Peter Dyson; robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au Cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Responses needed to the NCSS Decadal Plan announcement Dear All, I am concerned about the response to the announcement of the NCSS Decadal Plan and its request for people to volunteer their time and ideas. (However, Jeantte Mill, our new contact at the Academy due to Judy Richmond retiring, has worked hard to have the NCSS Plan put onto the Academy website and Phil Wilkinson of IPS and NCRS has done sterling work in updating the STSP website and making sure that the NCSS Decadal Plan is properly described there.) This email is directed only towards the members of the NCSS (a similar one has gone to the STSP Committee of the AIP) and I do not want it to be distributed widely. My aim is to increase the number of people volunteering and actively participating in the NCSS Decadal Plan. The basic issue is that none of those people who might be considered mainstream space scientists have yet volunteered and there has been no response from industry or Government. Specifically, I have not received statements from any of you on NCSS that you or a colleague is volunteering. Similarly I have heard nothing organised from community groups like the National Space Society of Australia. The deadline for this "brainstorming" and volunteering phase of the Plan is 28 October, this Friday. Note that the Decadal Plan will be focused on the visions, projects, and priorities of those who contribute to and/or write it. Those who sit on the sidelines are unlikely to have their ideas/projects included or given sufficient priority to have them funded. The Decadal Plan could have major funding implications for space science: for instance, the new "Astronomy" Decadal Plan regards space-based astrophysics as being important but not suitable for Australian investment of funds, thereby essentially preventing Australian scientists from participating in such international missions as equal players. Put bluntly, even future ARC funding of such research at the rate of a few hundred thousand dollars per year is at risk: unsympathetic reviewers will simply ask whether the project fits into the NCA Plan and then lower their evaluations into the unfundable range! If you have a longterm vision for your area of space science that involves significant new funding then I encourage you to join the NCSS Decadal Plan now. Otherwise, don't complain. It would make sense if younger people in the main Australian space science groups volunteered, with the understanding that they will work hard with their older colleagues to forge good vision and project proposals. Having said this, many people near the standard retirement ages have no intention of leaving science and have extremely valuable expertise, experience, and wisdom to impart. A mix of both younger and older people is therefore ideal for the volunteers (and it's OK for multiple people from a given group to volunteer). While eventually today's "young" people will be the main Australian players in space science and so they must feel an "ownership" interest in the NCSS Decadal Plan, it would be ideal if all parts of the Australian space science community felt an ownership interest. I therefore strongly encourage you to discuss the NCSS Decadal Plan with your colleagues, organise people to volunteer and respond to me before the deadline, and start developing visions, themes, and projects and other contributions to the Decadal Plan. I look forward to receiving your personal responses to this email and, shortly, statements of interests and proposed contributions from volunteers. Remember that the deadline for the brainstorming/volunteering phase is this Friday, 28 October 2005. Sincerely, Iver. (Iver Cairns, Chair, STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics). P.S. The list of areas for which people have volunteered so far is: plasma thrusters (ANU), GPS/TEC analyses (UQ), community involvement (South Australia - 1 person), solar sails and building structures in space (USyd - on spare time) space plasma physics / solar physics / space weather (me & others at USyd). I've also heard that some planetary geologists (ANU) are interested but they haven't written to me yet. FYI, space-based astrophysicists (USyd/Melb/UQ) are interested but this falls in NCA's purview (as confirmed with NCA). *********************************************************** Dr. Iver Cairns, Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726. President, Section ST (Solar Terrestrial), and Council member of the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) Chair, Division IV (Solar Wind and Interplanetary Magnetic field) of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science) Chair, Solar-Terrestrial and Space Physics Group of the Australian Institute of Physics. Treasurer, NSW Branch of the Australian Institute of Physics. *********************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D83C.4377B173 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="AEON_Submissionv1.pdf" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: AEON_Submissionv1.pdf X-Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="AEON_Submissionv1.pdf" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/OCTET-STREAM segment of about 37,213 bytes, ] [ described as "AEON_Submissionv1.pdf" ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D83C.4377B173-- From Graziella.Caprarelli@uts.edu.au Thu Nov 3 18:59:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from zim.itd.uts.edu.au (zim.itd.uts.EDU.AU [138.25.22.46]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA37x8px029515 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:59:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from Graziella.Caprarelli@uts.edu.au) Received: by zim.itd.uts.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 900) id C78B1C301A; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:59:08 +1100 (EST) Received: from vimes (vimes.itd.uts.edu.au [138.25.243.34])by zim.itd.uts.edu.au (Postfix/Ingress) with ESMTP id BB2DAC2F15;Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:59:02 +1100 (EST) Received: from [138.25.82.116] by postoffice.uts.edu.au(Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.09 (built Dec 14 2004))with ESMTP id <0IPD00GQRCUEY8D0@postoffice.uts.edu.au>; Thu,03 Nov 2005 18:59:02 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:59:02 +1100 From: Graziella Caprarelli Subject: Re: Fwd: Progress on the NCSS Decadal Plan for Space Science In-reply-to: <7f3493edc3fd3d86d8017d4b23ad66a1@anu.edu.au> To: Marc Norman Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Message-id: <4369C346.2020101@uts.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <7f3493edc3fd3d86d8017d4b23ad66a1@anu.edu.au> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Macintosh/20040626) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uts.edu.au X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.11.2.45 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Content-Length: 2903 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 Dear Marc and Iver, I'd certainly be happy to help (volunteer) if I may be of any assistance. My principal support / volunteering contribution could be in the field of planetary sciences, more specifically Mars research. Cheers, Graziella. ********************************************** Dr. Graziella Caprarelli Deputy Director - Computational Research Support Unit Faculty of Science University of Technology, Sydney (02)9514-1776 Graziella.Caprarelli@uts.edu.au ********************************************** Marc Norman wrote: > *** > > *From: *Iver Cairns > *Date: *3 November 2005 5:29:38 PM > *To: *Rod Boswell , Alexey Kondyurin > , Andrew.Parfitt@csiro.au, > andrew.parfitt@unisa.edu.au, brian.fraser@newcastle.edu.au, > charles.barton@anu.edu.au, christine.charles@anu.edu.au, > colin.waters@newcastle.edu.au, David@ips.gov.au, phil@ips.gov.au, > fred.menk@newcastle.edu.au, Ildiko Horvath > , Iver Cairns , > Marc Norman , Murray Parkinson > , mwalter@els.mq.edu.au, > P.Dyson@latrobe.edu.au, Ragbir Bhathal , Rod > Boswell , Spence Wort > , Trevor Ireland , > trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au, Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au, > Wayne McRae , p.robinson@physics.usyd.edu.au > *Cc: *jeanette.mill@science.org.au, i.cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au > *Subject: Progress on the NCSS Decadal Plan for Space Science > * > > Dear All, > > You have received this email because you responded to the recent > announcements of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space > Science by sending me an email with either comments or a statement > that you would help develop the Plan. Thank you very much for > responding and volunteering your time and efforts to this > important enterprise! > *** > > I look forward to hearing from you in due course. Sincerely, > > Iver Cairns > > (Chair, National Committee for Space Science). > -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. From cameron.boyd@concepts.aero Sat Nov 5 10:04:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com (omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.92.153]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA4N4NQ7023039 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:04:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cameron.boyd@concepts.aero) Received: from Mercury ([58.164.176.56]) by omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20051104230422.ZRXU16720.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@Mercury>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:04:22 +0000 From: "Cameron Boyd" To: "'Iver Cairns'" Cc: Subject: RE: Re. the (Australian) National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:04:00 +1000 Message-ID: <000501c5e194$0dd0bc00$0100000a@Mercury> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.11.4.27 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P1_2 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CTYPE_CHARSET_QUOTED 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __HAS_X_PRIORITY 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0' Content-Length: 7558 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 Hi Iver, Thanks for the request for input. It looks very interesting. As you are no doubt aware, ASRI is working with the engineering committees of Engineer's Australia (Nat. Com. Space Eng.) and the universities. I will leave ASRI to respond on ASRI's behalf, but on a personal note, I'd like to help out where possible. With the horrific recent demise of the observatory at Stromlo, I personally have been drawn to the idea of 'space science engineering' systems like observational equipment and experimental apparatus, and not just rockets and satellites. I'm currently doing a research masters in space technology export controls and note that space science items are restricted as for weapon systems, before we even start to discuss nuclear science (including laser technology). I am also employed as a systems engineer on a variety of aerospace defence and civilian projects, all of which provide subsystems for space science systems. If I can assist in any way, please let me know. Thanks, Cameron. -- Cameron Boyd Aerospace Concepts Pty Ltd Mob: +61 409 110 106 E-mail: cameron.boyd@concepts.aero Web: http://www.concepts.aero/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Iver Cairns [mailto:ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au] > Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2005 5:44 PM > To: gluckman@asri.org.au; jcoleman@asri; pteakle@asri.org.au; > cboyd@asri.org.au; asri@asri.org.au > Cc: Iver Cairns; marc.duldig@aad.gov.au > Subject: Re. the (Australian) National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) > Decadal Plan > > > > Dear Chairman Luckman, Vice-Chairman Coleman, Secretary Teakle, and > Academic Coordinator Boyd, and members of the Australian Space > Research Institute (ASRI), > > included below is the announcement email, dated about 1 month ago, > regarding the development of a first Decadal Plan for Space Science > in Australia by the National Committee for Space Science (Australian > Academy of Science). I apologise for not directly informing you of > the Decadal Plan in September. This was an error and while I did > hope that the announcement would be widely distributed through > other channels this has apparently not happened. > > You are likely aware that this Decadal Plan will be a first, and > therefore it is an opportunity for new and improved linkages to be > made. This seems especially important since the links between most > professional scientists and groups like ASRI and industry appear to > be relatively weak. I am very keen for public groups and industry > interested in space science to have input into the Decadal > Plan. The draft documents at the Plan websites will show this: > > http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm and > > http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~ncss . > > While the official deadline for volunteering and initial "brainstorming > inputs" to the Plan was several days ago, this is flexible. I consider it > very important to have at least some input from ASRI and associated > groups, preferably including statements of what you see as > essential and desirable and suggestions on how to accomplish these > goals/projects. > > Therefore I strongly encourage ASRI, and at least some ASRI members in > either an ASRI or personal capacity, to participate in developing the > Plan. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, > > Iver Cairns > > P.S. Please forward this email to people you consider likely to be > interested. > > *********************************************************** > > Dr. Iver Cairns, > Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. > > School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au > University of Sydney, > NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 > Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726 > Mobile: 0407-483-798. > > Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of > Science) > > *********************************************************** > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) > From: Iver Cairns > To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, > jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, > pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, > genesis@gsoft.com.au, > nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au > Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, > Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, > Malcolm Walter , > Peter Dyson , > Brian Fraser , > robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, > david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns , > brian.boyle@csiro.au > Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) > Decadal Plan > > > (Please forward this to interested people.) > > The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces > the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for > Space Science and invites interested people to participate > in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for > the period 2006 - 2015. > > NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science > directed to foster the area of space science in Australia > (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the > troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian > scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to > advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of > the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's > space science community, associated industries, and Government > to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. > > Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule > for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, > (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, > (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, > and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . > They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, > to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects > of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, > industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and > links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit > volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. > > Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the > "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests > written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan > for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer > their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These > should be sent before the deadline of > > 28 October 2005 > > to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, > School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, > > at > > ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). > > NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, > on behalf of NCSS, > > Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science > > (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, > A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, > Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, > Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, > Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, > Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, > Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, > Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University > Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Nov 7 17:07:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA767e0U009567; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:07:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id jA7654Fl009123; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:07:39 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:05:04 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Cameron Boyd cc: "'Iver Cairns'" , marc.duldig@aad.gov.au, brian.fraser@newcastle.edu.au, p.dyson@latrobe.edu.au Subject: RE: Re. the (Australian) National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) Decadal Plan In-Reply-To: <000501c5e194$0dd0bc00$0100000a@Mercury> Message-ID: References: <000501c5e194$0dd0bc00$0100000a@Mercury> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 8305 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 Dear Cameron, it's very good to hear from you. I note what you say about ASRI. There seems little linkage between the engineering and science people in the "space" area. It would benefit everyone if we changed this. I will be pleased to have you involved. It may be as much as a week before I respond with a plan. With thanks, Iver (Iver Cairns, Chair, NCSS). On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Cameron Boyd wrote: > Hi Iver, > Thanks for the request for input. It looks very interesting. > > As you are no doubt aware, ASRI is working with the engineering > committees of Engineer's Australia (Nat. Com. Space Eng.) and the > universities. > > I will leave ASRI to respond on ASRI's behalf, but on a personal note, > I'd like to help out where possible. > > With the horrific recent demise of the observatory at Stromlo, I > personally have been drawn to the idea of 'space science engineering' > systems like observational equipment and experimental apparatus, and not > just rockets and satellites. > > I'm currently doing a research masters in space technology export > controls and note that space science items are restricted as for weapon > systems, before we even start to discuss nuclear science (including > laser technology). > > I am also employed as a systems engineer on a variety of aerospace > defence and civilian projects, all of which provide subsystems for space > science systems. > > If I can assist in any way, please let me know. > Thanks, > Cameron. > -- > Cameron Boyd > Aerospace Concepts Pty Ltd > Mob: +61 409 110 106 > E-mail: cameron.boyd@concepts.aero > Web: http://www.concepts.aero/ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Iver Cairns [mailto:ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2005 5:44 PM > > To: gluckman@asri.org.au; jcoleman@asri; pteakle@asri.org.au; > > cboyd@asri.org.au; asri@asri.org.au > > Cc: Iver Cairns; marc.duldig@aad.gov.au > > Subject: Re. the (Australian) National Committee for Space Science > (NCSS) > > Decadal Plan > > > > > > > > Dear Chairman Luckman, Vice-Chairman Coleman, Secretary Teakle, and > > Academic Coordinator Boyd, and members of the Australian Space > > Research Institute (ASRI), > > > > included below is the announcement email, dated about 1 month ago, > > regarding the development of a first Decadal Plan for Space Science > > in Australia by the National Committee for Space Science (Australian > > Academy of Science). I apologise for not directly informing you of > > the Decadal Plan in September. This was an error and while I did > > hope that the announcement would be widely distributed through > > other channels this has apparently not happened. > > > > You are likely aware that this Decadal Plan will be a first, and > > therefore it is an opportunity for new and improved linkages to be > > made. This seems especially important since the links between most > > professional scientists and groups like ASRI and industry appear to > > be relatively weak. I am very keen for public groups and industry > > interested in space science to have input into the Decadal > > Plan. The draft documents at the Plan websites will show this: > > > > http://www.science.org.au/natcoms/ss-decadal.htm and > > > > http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~ncss . > > > > While the official deadline for volunteering and initial > "brainstorming > > inputs" to the Plan was several days ago, this is flexible. I consider > it > > very important to have at least some input from ASRI and associated > > groups, preferably including statements of what you see as > > essential and desirable and suggestions on how to accomplish these > > goals/projects. > > > > Therefore I strongly encourage ASRI, and at least some ASRI members in > > either an ASRI or personal capacity, to participate in developing the > > Plan. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, > > > > Iver Cairns > > > > P.S. Please forward this email to people you consider likely to be > > interested. > > > > *********************************************************** > > > > Dr. Iver Cairns, > > Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. > > > > School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au > > University of Sydney, > > NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 > > Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726 > > Mobile: 0407-483-798. > > > > Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of > > Science) > > > > *********************************************************** > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:14 +1000 (EST) > > From: Iver Cairns > > To: stsp@ips.gov.au, nancy.pritchard@science.org.au, > > jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, > > pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, > > genesis@gsoft.com.au, > > nssa@nssa.com.au, phil@ips.gov.au > > Cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, > > Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, > > Malcolm Walter , > > Peter Dyson , > > Brian Fraser , > > robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, > > david@ips.gov.au, Iver Cairns > , > > brian.boyle@csiro.au > > Subject: Announcement of the National Committee for Space Science > (NCSS) > > Decadal Plan > > > > > > (Please forward this to interested people.) > > > > The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces > > the development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for > > Space Science and invites interested people to participate > > in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan is for > > the period 2006 - 2015. > > > > NCSS is the Committee of the Australian Academy of Science > > directed to foster the area of space science in Australia > > (meaning here all aspects of solar system science beyond the > > troposphere), to serve as an effective link between Australian > > scientists and overseas scientists in the same field, and to > > advise the Academy's Council on relevant matters. NCSS is of > > the opinion that it is in the best interests of Australia's > > space science community, associated industries, and Government > > to develop a first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. > > > > Attached are four documents: (1) a draft Process and Schedule > > for developing the Decadal Plan, process_NCSS_30sept.doc, > > (2) a draft purview of the Plan, purview_NCSS_30sept.txt, > > (3) a draft Structure for the Plan, structure_NCSS_30sept.doc, > > and (4) a Strawman for the Plan, strawman_NCSS_30sept.txt . > > They are intended to excite interest in the Decadal Plan, > > to stimulate constructive written contributions on all aspects > > of the Plan (including scientific goals, projects and facilities, > > industrial capabilities and projects, Government needs, and > > links between Science, Industry, and Government), and to recruit > > volunteers to develop and promote the Plan. > > > > Based on the draft Process/Schedule, we are now in the > > "brainstorming" period for the Plan. NCSS therefore requests > > written comments on all aspects of the proposed Decadal Plan > > for Space Science and invites interested people to volunteer > > their time and relevant expertise to develop the Plan. These > > should be sent before the deadline of > > > > 28 October 2005 > > > > to Dr Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science, > > School of Physics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, > > > > at > > > > ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au (email) or 02-9351-7726 (fax). > > > > NCSS looks forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, > > on behalf of NCSS, > > > > Iver Cairns, Chair, National Committee for Space Science > > > > (Prof. Charlie Barton, Australian National University, > > A./Prof. Iver Cairns, University of Sydney, > > Dr David Cole, IPS Radio and Space Services, > > Prof. Peter Dyson, La Trobe University, > > Prof. Brian Fraser, University of Newcastle, > > Dr Alex Held, CSIRO Office of Space Science and Applications, > > Prof. Andrew Parfitt, University of South Australia, > > Prof. Malcolm Walter, Macquarie University > > Prof. Robert Vincent, University of Adelaide). > > > From ncss@suphys Fri Dec 2 10:05:37 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from twonetom19.sge.net (twonetom19.sge.net [152.91.2.19]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB1N5XgM001561 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from Jon.Clarke@ga.gov.au) Received: from twonetvs14.sge.net (twonetvs-om [152.91.2.17]) by twonetom19.sge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35076AA72; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from twonetvs14.sge.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B521711E; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from twonetim3.sge.net (twonetim-vs.sge.net [152.91.2.9]) by twonetvs14.sge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D9716D87; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from martin.securenet.com.au (martin.securenet.com.au [202.125.0.71]) by twonetim3.sge.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F1DFA9D6; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from giblin.securenet.com.au (cbr-left.securenet.com.au [202.125.0.37]) by martin.securenet.com.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jB1N5VFD007691; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 Received: from zeta-out.ga.gov.au (gafw.securenet.com.au [10.15.21.190]) by giblin.securenet.com.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jB1N5VZs026637; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 Received: from mail.agso.gov.au (mail.agso.gov.au [10.7.64.69]) by zeta-out.ga.gov.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AD01C169; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 (EST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Subject: decadal plan Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:05:31 +1100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: decadal plan Thread-Index: AcX2y7nwju+aKmKNSCewZvTsJjwO+A== From: To: Cc: X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.12.1.28 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='HTML_70_90 0.1, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HTML_BOLD 0, __HTML_FONT_BLUE 0, __HTML_MSWORD 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0' Content-Length: 310100 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Iver =20 Please find attached a submission from Mars Society Australia, as = promised last week. 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Dear Iver

 

Please find attached a submission from Mars Society = Australia, as promised last week.  I will ring later today to confirm that it has arrived.

 

Best wishes

 

Jon

 

Dr Jonathan Clarke

Cooperative Research Centre for Landscape Environments &

Mineral Exploration (CRC LEME)

c/- Geoscience Australia {Room = 2.026}

ABN 80 091 799 039 (GA) --- ABN = 26 980 905 034 (CRC = LEME)

Postal address Courier/visit address

GPO Box 378 Cnr Jerrabomberra Ave & = Hindmarsh Dr

Canberra, ACT 2601 Symonston, ACT 2609

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Contacts

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Fax: (02) 6249 9930 - International: 61 2 6249 9930

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Email: Jon.Clarke@ga.gov.au

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------_=_NextPart_002_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA-- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: application/msword; name="decadal.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: decadal.doc X-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="decadal.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/MSWORD segment of about 229,635 bytes, ] [ described as "decadal.doc" ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F6CB.BA0D51DA-- From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Wed Nov 23 18:17:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAN7HIiS019045 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:17:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jAN7HIsn022126 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:17:18 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id jAN7HIDl022122 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:17:18 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:17:18 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: NCSS Decadal Plan (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 5444 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:15:01 +1000 From: Brian Fraser To: M.Parkinson@latrobe.edu.au, cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Cc: marc.duldig@aad.gov.au, robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, robert.dewar@anu.edu.au, alex.held@csiro.au, david.jupp@csiro.au, trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au, mwalter@els.mq.edu.au, David@ips.gov.au, phil@ips.gov.au, P.Dyson@latrobe.edu.au, i.cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au, ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, jeanette.mill@science.org.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au Subject: Re: NCSS Decadal Plan Hi Iver Still in Delhi......... Regarding industry, have you tried Auspace (Roger Franzen) and VIPAC Scientists and Engineers (Mirek Vesely), they are CRCSS industry partners. Regards Brian Professor Brian Fraser Space Physics Group CRC for Satellite Systems Room 124 Physics Building School of Mathematical and Physical Sciences Mailing Address: Physics Building The University of Newcastle University Drive Callaghan NSW 2308 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 2 4921 5445 Fax: +61 2 4921 6907 Email: brian.fraser@newcastle.edu.au http://plasma.newcastle.edu.au/spwg >>> Iver Cairns 10/28/05 9:54 AM >>> Dear Murray, these are the types of "non-traditional space science" people that I've been wanting to get involved in the NCSS Decadal Plan. My attempts so far have been via emails to the National Space Society of Australia and various others. No official responses yet (indeed only 1 likely person, a Mr Spence Wort from South Australia, has replied - anyone know him?). It appears as though personal phone calls will be required to make progress. This is true also for business/industry, none of whom have responded (Electro-Optic Systems, Kistler Aerospace, Genesis, Kirby Ikin/Phillip Young). Do any of you have names or connections to Industry/Government or public space groups that we should be pursuing? Have you already informed them of the Decadal Plan? Thank you for your inputs. Best wishes, Iver. On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Murray Parkinson wrote: > Dear All, > > I have attached an e-mail message which some of you may have seen. It > seems like an outstanding example of an Australian niche space science > project. Unfortunately, I don't think that most of our community > identifies with this project which involves the development of > technology for human exploration of the solar system. I have no doubt > some very clever engineers, lay people, and scientists are involved in > the project, and the ultimate solutions adopted by NASA may incorporate > some of the better ideas. > > Should this project be described in the space science plan? I guess the > project is more of an engineering endeavour than a basic science effort. > > Just a thought, Murray > > > > > > > [marssocietynewsletter] Mars Society Australia Gets Funding for > Starchaser Rover > > marssocietynewsletter@yahoogroups.com; on behalf of; zubrin1 > [zubrin@aol.com] > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home > page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/RGYolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > Mars Society Australia Gets Stage Three Funding for Starchaser Rover > October 27, 2005 For further information about the international Mars > Society, visit our website at www.marssociety.org For further > information about the Mars Society Australia, visit our website at > www.marssociety.org.au > > > The UK Space Tourism Company, Starchaser Industries through their > Director,Paul Young has generously donated another UKP 20,000 (AU$ > 46,723) for Stage 3 of the construction of the Starchaser Marsupial > Rover project. > > This funding will cover the final construction and fit out of the > roverbefore it becomes operational, which is expect to be June 2006. > > The analogue Starchaser Rover is being built by the Mars Society > Australia in Western Australia to replicate the type of vehicle that > would be used by long distance explorers on the surface of the Red > Planet. The project arose from a competition by the Mars Society in the > US to raise awareness of the need for vehicles to provide simulations > for crews prior to sending the first interplanetary explorers to Mars. > > Built to carry 2-3 persons, the Starchaser Rover is based on a stretched > long wheelbase forward control Landrover chassis and running gear > powered by a Toyota engine. The vehicle will be convertible from full > cabin to ute (pick-up) configuration, and will be complete with airlock, > toilet facilities, head-up displays, GPS navigation equipment, > spacesuits for simulated EVAs, hydraulic robotic arm, long range fuel > tanks etc. > > The vehicle will be deployed to a planned Mars simulation base in the > Arkaroola region in SA for studies in a Mars-like environment, however > its home base will be at a purpose built rover laboratory at the Centre > for Planetary and Space Studies, the latter a joint venture by the Mars > Society and Trinity College, East Perth, Western Australia. > > David Cooper > President, Outreach Director, > Mars Society Australia, Inc. > Web: http://www.marssociety.org.au > Email: outreach@marssociety.org.au > > > > > > > > > From ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Dec 2 18:46:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB27kvDT015630; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:46:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from localhost (ncss@localhost) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id jB27kv3Y015625; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:46:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ncss@suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:46:57 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Jon.Clarke@ga.gov.au cc: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au, mcooksey@bigpond.net.au, Iver Cairns Subject: Re: decadal plan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1028 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 Dear Jon, sorry, just found this. Will be in contact, Iver. On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 Jon.Clarke@ga.gov.au wrote: > Dear Iver > > > > Please find attached a submission from Mars Society Australia, as promised > last week. I will ring later today to confirm that it has arrived. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jon > > > > Dr Jonathan Clarke > > Cooperative Research Centre for Landscape Environments & > > Mineral Exploration (CRC LEME) > > c/- Geoscience Australia {Room 2.026} > > ABN 80 091 799 039 (GA) --- ABN 26 980 905 034 (CRC LEME) > > Postal address Courier/visit address > > GPO Box 378 Cnr Jerrabomberra Ave & Hindmarsh Dr > > Canberra, ACT 2601 Symonston, ACT 2609 > > Australia Australia > > Contacts > > Tel: (02) 6249 9730 - International: 61 2 6249 9730 > > Fax: (02) 6249 9930 - International: 61 2 6249 9930 > > Mob: Loc 0418401612 - Int: 61 2 418401612 > > Email: Jon.Clarke@ga.gov.au > > Web: LEME: [http://crcleme.org.au ] GA: [ > http://www.ga.gov.au ] > > > > From ncss@suphys Wed Nov 9 17:30:53 2005 +1100 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA96UpUH002121 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:30:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jA96Upj4011450 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:30:51 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id jA96UpEl011446 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:30:51 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:30:51 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: DSTO Decadal plan comments. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY=------------020901060606040201060400 Content-ID: Content-Length: 70460 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 --------------020901060606040201060400 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; FORMAT=flowed Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:10:37 +1030 From: Trevor Harris To: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au, trevor.harris@defence.gov.au, trevor.harris@tpg.com.au Subject: DSTO Decadal plan comments. Iver, attached is a word doc for the DSTO decadal plan response. After all that time its not much. sorry for the delay, as you can tell i am currently at home. could you please forward this response to the committee as i dont have access to my email address lists here. regards, Trevor. --------------020901060606040201060400 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Type: APPLICATION/MSWORD; NAME="Iver.doc" X-Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Deleted Attachment X-Content-Description: X-Content-Disposition: INLINE; FILENAME="Iver.doc" [ The following attachments were DELETED when this message was saved: ] [ A Application/MSWORD segment of about 52,623 bytes, ] --------------020901060606040201060400-- From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Thu Nov 10 17:24:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAA6OU6w000948 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:24:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jAA6OUj4013858 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:24:30 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id jAA6OUwx013854 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:24:30 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:24:30 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: ncss@physics.usyd.edu.au Subject: RE: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 7895 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:52:00 +1100 From: Murray Parkinson To: Iver Cairns , Brian Fraser , Marc.Duldig@aad.gov.au, Phil Wilkinson , robert.dewar@anu.edu.au, robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au Subject: RE: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement Dear Iver, I know the official "brain storming phase" has come to an end, but I think the following matter is very important anyway. For understandable reasons people propose experimental projects they want to work on because that is the route by which they advance their career and accrue status. Of course, these projects also create short-term student opportunities for students and post doctoral fellows. However, the space science plan needs to advocate a vision far more important than any major experimental project. That vision is people, because ultimately it is people that will make or break space science in Australia. I think that we need to formulate visions that are aimed directly at people. The number of good people pursuing careers in Australian space science is small, basically because the employment opportunities are very limited. My observations of student outcomes are that many good people leave the field all together, or make a permanent move to the US, UK, etc. Australian space science could be a far more active and productive field of human endeavour. There are already mechanisms in place to fund student scholarships and postdoctoral fellowships. Indeed, I believe that at many Australian Universities it is possible for second-rate applicants to secure a scholarship. Pursuing a career in space physics, for example, is generally not considered an attractive option to many students, simply because their employment prospects are so limited. I propose the single most important vision we can lead the decadal plan with is the creation of a National Space Science Fund to pay for continuing staff scientific positions. Without the prospect of acquiring a job, there is not much point in good people pursuing a career in space science, and our community will continue to suffer. The allocation of money could be managed by the AAS, awarded to applicants on the basis of merit, but with a view toward achieving a strategic distribution of posts throughout bona fide Australian organisations, University or otherwise. It might be that only several positions are allocated per annum. Where will the money come from? Well, that is always the major problem to be solved. Any suggestions on how we might shift the allocation of money would be much appreciated. It is up to all of you to decide whether it is a good idea to make people the primary vision of the plan, and then decide the best way to do this. The creation of a "Centre of Excellence" is one possible example, especially if it really does create new opportunities. Best wishes, Murray -----Original Message----- From: Iver Cairns [mailto:cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:46 AM To: Brian Fraser; Marc.Duldig@aad.gov.au; Murray Parkinson; Phil Wilkinson; robert.dewar@anu.edu.au; robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au; trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au Cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Responses needed to the Decadal Plan announcement Dear All, I am concerned about the response to the announcement of the NCSS Decadal Plan and its request for people to volunteer their time and ideas. (However, Phil Wilkinson has done sterling work in updating the STSP website and making sure that the NCSS Decadal Plan is properly described there.) This email is directed only towards the Committee for the STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics (with a similar one going to the NCSS) and I do not want it to be distributed widely. My aim is to increase the number of people volunteering and actively participating in the NCSS Decadal Plan. The basic issue is that none of those people who might be considered mainstream space scientists have yet volunteered and there has been no response from industry or Government. Specifically, I have heard from none of you people on the STSP Committee! Similarly I have heard nothing organised from community groups like the National Space Society of Australia. The deadline for this "brainstorming" and volunteering phase of the Plan is 28 October, this Friday. Note that the Decadal Plan will be focused on the visions, projects, and priorities of those who contribute to and/or write it. Those who sit on the sidelines are unlikely to have their ideas/projects included or given sufficient priority to have them funded. The Decadal Plan could have major funding implications for space science: for instance, the new "Astronomy" Decadal Plan regards space-based astrophysics as being important but not suitable for Australian investment of funds, thereby essentially preventing Australian scientists from participating in such international missions as equal players. Put bluntly, even future ARC funding of such research at the rate of a few hundred thousand dollars per year is at risk: unsympathetic reviewers will simply ask whether the project fits into the NCA Plan and then lower their evaluations into the unfundable range! If you have a longterm vision for your area of space science that involves significant new funding then I encourage you to join the NCSS Decadal Plan now. Otherwise, don't complain. It would make sense if younger people in the main Australian space science groups volunteered, with the understanding that they will work hard with their older colleagues to forge good vision and project proposals. Having said this, many people near the standard retirement ages have no intention of leaving science and have extremely valuable expertise, experience, and wisdom to impart. A mix of both younger and older people is therefore ideal for the volunteers (and it's OK for multiple people from a given group to volunteer). While eventually today's "young" people will be the main Australian players in space science and so they must feel an "ownership" interest in the NCSS Decadal Plan, it would be ideal if all parts of the Australian space science community felt an ownership interest. I therefore strongly encourage you to discuss the NCSS Decadal Plan with your colleagues, organise people to volunteer and respond to me before the deadline, and start developing visions, themes, and projects and other contributions to the Decadal Plan. I look forward to receiving your personal responses to this email and, shortly, statements of interests and proposed contributions from volunteers. Remember that the deadline for the brainstorming/volunteering phase is this Friday, 28 October 2005. Sincerely, Iver. (Iver Cairns, Chair, STSP Group of the Australian Institute of Physics). *********************************************************** Dr. Iver Cairns, Australian Professorial Fellow and Associate Professor. School of Physics, Email: cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Work phone: +61-2 9351-3961 Australia Work fax: +61-2 9351-7726. President, Section ST (Solar Terrestrial), and Council member of the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) Chair, Division IV (Solar Wind and Interplanetary Magnetic field) of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) Chair, National Committee for Space Science (Australian Academy of Science) Chair, Solar-Terrestrial and Space Physics Group of the Australian Institute of Physics. Treasurer, NSW Branch of the Australian Institute of Physics. *********************************************************** From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Fri Mar 24 17:48:23 2006 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2O6mH82007376; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:48:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost.physics.usyd.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2O6jvcO026064; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:45:57 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k2O6jpsE026056; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:45:52 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:45:51 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: stsp@ips.gov.au, phil@ips.gov.au, alex.held@csiro.au, Andrew.Parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Malcolm Walter , Peter Dyson , Brian Fraser , robert.vincent@adelaide.edu.au, charles.barton@anu.edu.au, david@ips.gov.au, carol.oliver@mq.edu.au, rod.boswell@anu.edu.au, colin.waters@newcastle.edu.au, marc.norman@anu.edu.au, p.robinson@physics.usyd.edu.au, bbidding@cisco.com, graziella.caprarelli@uts.edu.au, jon.clarke@ga.gov.au, j.zillman@bom.gov.au, trevor.ireland@anu.edu.au, Iver Cairns , roger.franzen@auspace.com.au cc: jeanette.mill@science.org.au, kirbyikin@bigpond.com, pyoung@optushome.com.au, BenGreene@compuserve.com, genesis@gsoft.com.au, nssa@nssa.com.au, brian.boyle@csiro.au, Iver Cairns Subject: Working Group Phase of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Length: 1476 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 (Please forward this to interested people.) The National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) announces that it has formed a Steering Committee and Working Groups for the next phase (the Working Group Phase) in its development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. NCSS, the Steering Committee, and the Working Group Chairs invite interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan's website http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~ncss presents information on: (i) the proposed schedule for the Plan, (ii) the structure, responsibilities, aims, and areas for the Steering Committee and Working Groups, and (iii) the names & email contact details of the Chairs. A Powerpoint file of a February 2006 talk on the Plan, together with more background information and the submissions to the Brainstorming Phase, can also be found on the website. The Chairs of the Steering Committee and Working Groups now invite submissions on aspects of the Plan to be sent to them by email or other means. (Please send your communication only to the Chairs of relevant WGs or the Steering Committee.) People are welcome to volunteer their time and expertise to the Chairs, as well as sending submissions. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, the Steeering Committee, and the Working Group Chairs, Iver Cairns (Chair, National Committee for Space Science, and Chair, Steering Committee for the Decadal Plan for Space Science). From cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au Mon Mar 27 11:12:29 2006 Return-Path: Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.110]) by suphys.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2R0CRZ9012394; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:12:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cairns@physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: from iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (localhost.physics.usyd.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2R07heh007376; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:43 +1100 Received: from localhost (cairns@localhost) by iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k2R07g2f007373; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:42 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: iolaus.physics.usyd.edu.au: cairns owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:42 +1100 (EST) From: Iver Cairns To: Alexey Kondyurin , Andrew.Parfitt@csiro.au, andrew.parfitt@unisa.edu.au, Brian Fraser , charles.barton@anu.edu.au, christine.charles@anu.edu.au, colin.waters@newcastle.edu.au, David@ips.gov.au, fred.menk@newcastle.edu.au, Ildiko Horvath , Iver Cairns , jeanette.mill@science.org.au, Marc Norman , Murray Parkinson , mwalter@els.mq.edu.au, P.Dyson@latrobe.edu.au, phil@ips.gov.au, p.robinson@physics.usyd.edu.au, Ragbir Bhathal , Rod Boswell , Rod Boswell , Spence Wort , trevor.harris@dsto.defence.gov.au, Trevor.Ireland@anu.edu.au, Trevor Ireland , Wayne McRae cc: Iver Cairns Subject: Working Group Phase of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Length: 2234 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 (Please forward this to interested people.) Dear People, late last year you volunteered your comments or time to the request for comments by the National Committee for Space Science (NCSS) on its proposed development of the first Australian Decadal Plan for Space Science. NCSS announces that it has formed a Steering Committee and selected the Chairs of Working Groups for the next phase (the Working Group Phase) in its development of the Decadal Plan. NCSS, the Steering Committee, and the Working Group Chairs invite interested people to participate in the development of the Decadal Plan. The Plan's website http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~ncss presents information on: (i) the proposed schedule for the Plan, (ii) the structure, responsibilities, aims, and areas for the Steering Committee and Working Groups, and (iii) the names & email contact details of the Chairs. A Powerpoint file of a February 2006 talk on the Plan, together with more background information and the submissions to the Brainstorming Phase, can also be found on the website. The Chairs of the Steering Committee and Working Groups now invite submissions on aspects of the Plan to be sent to them by email or other means. (Please send your communication only to the Chairs of relevant WGs or the Steering Committee.) People are welcome to volunteer their time and expertise to the Chairs, as well as sending submissions. Some of you will already have been contacted by Chairs of Working Groups and/or the Selection Committee. Others have not been yet - this does not mean that your volunteering and talents are not needed, or that you will not be invited to join a Working Group. However, not all people can be on Working Groups but all can contribute their ideas and time (with eventual appropriate recognition). Moreover, as said above, you can volunteer yourself directly to a Working Group Chair. I look forward to working with you this year and over the next 10 to make the Decadal Plan a great success. Yours sincerely, on behalf of NCSS, the Steeering Committee, and the Working Group Chairs, Iver Cairns (Chair, National Committee for Space Science, and Chair, Steering Committee for the Decadal Plan for Space Science).